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    Hello,

    Whether potentization and dilution regularily happen in our body, naturally? Excretions, reabsorptions & exposure to our sensing organs of diluted biochemicals can be common & a rotuine in body?

    Best wighes.
    Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
    Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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    [I’m wondering] whether potentization and dilution regularly happen in our body, naturally? Excretions, reabsorptions and exposure to our sensing organs of diluted biochemicals can be common and a routine in [the] body?
    Not potentization, better called dynamization. Whatever actually happens to substances by potentization/dynamization, that process, which clearly produces etheric energy medicines because they’re ultramolecular (“beyond molecules”), is gotten by succession, which is strident or vigorous shaking of half-full vials of the medicine. As far as I know, that doesn’t happen in Nature and is yet another indication that we were intended to discover this so that we’re not helpless in diseases precisely because it’s so easily done and produces such extraordinary effects. That’s also marvelous, isn’t it?

    Kayveeh, I like the quote. Who’s S. Kh.?

    God bless!
    Albert, also Hahnemannian444B
    www.GiggleBoggleJabbleGooby.com/HaHa

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    • #3
      What happens to water falling down waterfalls and so on? Is that "natural succussion" in any way?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hahnemannian444 View Post
        Not potentization, better called dynamization. Whatever actually happens to substances by potentization/dynamization, that process, which clearly produces etheric energy medicines because they’re ultramolecular (“beyond molecules”), is gotten by succession, which is strident or vigorous shaking of half-full vials of the medicine. As far as I know, that doesn’t happen in Nature and is yet another indication that we were intended to discover this so that we’re not helpless in diseases precisely because it’s so easily done and produces such extraordinary effects. That’s also marvelous, isn’t it?

        Kayveeh, I like the quote. Who’s S. Kh.?

        God bless!
        Hello Albert,

        I do not deny effects, much more which I felt personally, esp. by tissue remedies. These are prepared in same containers and their lower potencies(6X) are in much use. I do feel their effects more than 80%. As such, I am bit concerned about molecules. As science people claim low molecular doses can not give much effects in view of pharmacological studies. This can justify effects due to dynamism. But there is also a sense with low dilutions or remedies with molecular presence i.e. hormesis. whether minerals moving in a running river don't potentize river water? In many religion, holy dips in river water is suggested.

        It is Shiv Khea. Best regards.
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        Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
        Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Zepellin View Post

          What happens to water falling down waterfalls and so on? Is that "natural succussion" in any way?
          No. Have you ever seen a half-full vial inside a river or waterfall? In your dreams, pal. As far as I know, Nature simply doesn't do that.
          Albert, also Hahnemannian444B
          www.GiggleBoggleJabbleGooby.com/HaHa

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          • #6
            Still it looks that, traces of all substances esp. odd substances to body are left in body, which may take care in hormesis--homeopathic way.

            Still specific water mixed with specific or diluted chemicals may act in different way--somewhat in energetic or much diluted way along with by its different reflective specturms.
            Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
            Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hahnemannian444 View Post
              No. Have you ever seen a half-full vial inside a river or waterfall? In your dreams, pal. As far as I know, Nature simply doesn't do that.
              So nature doesn't pour water with content from one container to another, and adding more water and with succussion at each step?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Zepellin View Post

                So[,] nature doesn't pour water with content from one container to another, and adding more water and with succussion at each step?
                Again, do you see a half-full vial there? I mean, that was a pretty simple question, so what's with the God-damned sophistry? Better, do you see any medicine? Get real! What is wrong with you people? Hurry along, Jethro.
                Albert, also Hahnemannian444B
                www.GiggleBoggleJabbleGooby.com/HaHa

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                • #9
                  One problem can be there with river water. Its cantents--potentised or not, will not be specific substance but will be mixed. Moreover it can be natural to us & we can be habiyual to river water. So it may not cause dicipilined effects of specific substance which homeopathic remedies, being specific, can cause.

                  One important question will be:-

                  We take many subtances--food, durgs etc. Those can be natural & unnatural to body. It also appears that some traces of substances can stay in body somewhat as molecules stay in glass bottles. Traces of antibiotics was thought. I am not sure whether these traces will be from all substances or just few odd, unnatural or toxic to our body. Can these cause hormesis type effects which body maintain for survival benefit.
                  Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
                  Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
                    One problem can be there with river water. Its cantents--potentised or not, will not be specific substance but will be mixed. Moreover it can be natural to us & we can be habiyual to river water. So it may not cause dicipilined effects of specific substance which homeopathic remedies, being specific, can cause.
                    So are you saying that river water has lots of different substances in it? Perhaps many hundreds mixed in together, not a pure MT? And that is why it is not homeopathic?

                    Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
                    One important question will be:-

                    We take many subtances--food, durgs etc. Those can be natural & unnatural to body. It also appears that some traces of substances can stay in body somewhat as molecules stay in glass bottles. Traces of antibiotics was thought. I am not sure whether these traces will be from all substances or just few odd, unnatural or toxic to our body. Can these cause hormesis type effects which body maintain for survival benefit.
                    I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Yes, there are trace elements of nearly everything in our bodies today, in bigger and smaller amounts. This has been so throughout history. So are you saying that if there are more of some compounds that are toxic, it affects us negatively?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zepellin View Post
                      So are you saying that river water has lots of different substances in it? Perhaps many hundreds mixed in together, not a pure MT? And that is why it is not homeopathic?
                      To get odd effects--healing or harming, any exposure to our body also to be odd. Though dilution & shaking type effect happen with river water but that can still be common to us not odd. So it can act natuarally on us. Still as holy dips are suggested, there can be some different type of effects.

                      I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Yes, there are trace elements of nearly everything in our bodies today, in bigger and smaller amounts. This has been so throughout history. So are you saying that if there are more of some compounds that are toxic, it affects us negatively?
                      First, we should agree that traces of all or most drugs are left in our body for sometime after their use?
                      Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
                      Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
                        To get odd effects--healing or harming, any exposure to our body also to be odd. Though dilution & shaking type effect happen with river water but that can still be common to us not odd. So it can act natuarally on us. Still as holy dips are suggested, there can be some different type of effects.
                        I'm sorry, but I do not understand what you have written here. This makes no sense and does not answer my question. Please try to explain yourself a bit more clearly. As far as I can tell, we are talking about scientific homeopathy here, not religious practices.

                        Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
                        First, we should agree that traces of all or most drugs are left in our body for sometime after their use?
                        Why don't we agree instead that you explain your own ideas more fully all by yourself.

                        You started off by making a very confusing and vague statement about various substances being left in the human body. So could you please explain your idea more clearly and in detail, as I requested.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hahnemannian444 View Post
                          Again, do you see a half-full vial there? I mean, that was a pretty simple question, so what's with the God-damned sophistry? Better, do you see any medicine? Get real! What is wrong with you people? Hurry along, Jethro.
                          I'm sorry, but your point seems to be beyond me. Why do homeopathic remedies perforce need "half-full vials" to be made? Commercially produced remedies are definitely not made with any vials in the process at any point - they use large glass jars or stainless steel vats and tubs. So surely it is the remedy-making process that is critical, not the container it is performed in?

                          Also, who is this Jethro?

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                          • #14
                            Sorry, I can not make you to understand, if you don't want or have preconcieved mind..
                            Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
                            Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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