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    previously very happy 4 yr old girl had Kawasakis disease last year ....very Jekyl and Hyde character since then ...Hep sulp seemed to be improving her but now has crops of small hard raised white spots ( rather like Calcium lumps ) on her chin and patches on her arms they irritate her at times and bleed if scratched

    Character is much better ....much happier
    any ideas

  • #2
    Jekyl, Hyde behavior is often Medorrhinum. Do the other sx match--bites nails, loves ocean, sleeps on belly when feeling bad, etc?

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    • #3
      Will do some checking on this

      Gets Asthma with change of weather

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      • #4
        Pat
        You stuck a nerve. When you took the picture were there any cardiac symptoms in the picture,(ie meurmers, palpitations, or circulation problems) Also, my materia medicas predate 1920, do these remedies in question Hep sul and Med have such symptoms listed?

        Kawasaki's disease has no cure according to biomedical doctors.

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        • #5
          Allopaths have virtually no cure for anything !!!!!!!!

          She has come out clear on Heart scans thankfully although there is tiny leakage of a capilliary they are watching

          Seems from support group that kids who get Kawasakis either develop heart problems or behaviour problems afterwards

          I have read up Med in Boerickes and there are similarities but have yet to aquire some better newer materia medica
          On my list for London next month

          Mother is a Pulsatilla with very ungrateful tendencies
          Father is a classic Phosphorous also Asthmatic as child and had Kawasakis at age 3 .
          Child was given belladonna for redness and peeling skin on soles of feet and pretty sure this saved more damage being done

          Will put together the rest of the picture for furthur thought

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          • #6
            Dear Pat,

            Consider "TUBERCULINUM" as the under lying theme or THE theme.

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            • #7
              Pat
              Please keep me posted.

              Father had Kawasaki's Huh! Could this be considered miasmatic?

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              • #8
                Will look up Tuberculin ..........with the fathers family absolutely anything is possible ............Dr Barnados orphan no idea on hygeine or how to raise kids

                I cringe everytime I hear about them

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                • #9
                  Pat, with the mother, you may also want to look at Cyclamen - very like Puls, but decidedly nastier. I have a nice short differential between the two and can send it to you by E-mail if you like. Is the house ever a mess!?! Mother sitting down doing nothing and answering in monosyllables?

                  MM, see if you can get Vermeulen - expensive but well worth the money. Also Clarke, who gives the keynotes first in a general description and then launches into the schema.

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                  • #10
                    Thank you Ben ........do please send Cyclamen thesis to me by E Mail I shall look it up in my poor Boerickes
                    Will be asking for Vermulean for my Birthday
                    Do you have an ISBN no for it please

                    If you could also send the Catherine Coulter on Causticum I would be obliged

                    I usually sign on line just after 6pm UK time Monday to Friday so given the probs you have with Your gizzmo and the storage facility at servers perhaps this would help

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                    • #11
                      Ben - please post your short differentiation between Cyclamen and Puls. here please.

                      Vermeulen I - IBSN 90800845-4-9
                      Vermeulen II - IBSN 90800845-9-X

                      They are excellent desktop books but they are expensive. They are good for Keynotes.Especially the mind symptoms and the significant areas of the body in the ready. The second one is in a different format with more about the remedy. It has many of the less well known remedies and up to date ones like Hydrogen, Folliculinum.
                      RSHom - Registered Homeopath

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                      • #12
                        dear Ben,
                        I know I am shimmying in here but I would really love to see your PULS/CYCL DDX. Sounds interesting.THANKS
                        gdhudson3@hotmail.com

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                        • #13
                          Alright, here goes:


                          DIFFERENTIAL DIAGNOSIS

                          In practice we often meet with patients who seem to have something of two different remedies in their personality. They either display these personalities alternatingly in different circumstances or resemble either of the two and it is hard to distinguish between them, especially for the beginner. It is therefore necessary that we understand well what similarities and differences there exist between certain remedies. These are often the analogues, which show close resemblance to each other and on whose existence Teste built his Groups and Woodward his Constitutional Therapeutics. I will also mention here Farrington, whose Comparative Materia Medica was invaluable in the establishment of these pictures as well as Nash’s Leaders.

                          To enable these drug pictures of analogous personalities to come to life is not easy, because the differences can be very subtle, such as in Cyclamen and Pulsatilla, or Nitric acid and Hepar sulph. We will let diverse remedies pass the revue and see whether there is a warranty to look for Cyclamen as the intermediate between Pulsatilla and Lycopodium, or Arsenicum as part of a trio with Nitric acid and Hepar sulph, in the footsteps of Kent. Coulter mentions oft three well known remedies that appear to go well together, such as Lachesis, Sepia and Natrum mur. Kali Carb Arsenicum and Nitric acid are another three that would have such relationships. Coulter says that we will never know in which direction the remedy will take the patient, but careful study of one’s records should prove to give a statistical recurrence of certain sequences. And these are what we like to explore here in a limited manner.
                          PULSATILLA AND CYCLAMEN

                          In this section we will have a differential look at Cyclamen, which is very like Pulsatilla. There is a difference, in that Cyclamen has a sensation of duality, as if she was double and as if two persons were laying in her bed and the other overlapped her by half. This is a very strong Gemini indication and so we have placed it here. We do not know whether this is significant for the reluctance to talk and the solitariness the Cyclamen requires, but the synchronous sensation of being double and overlapping deserves further exploration. Gemini is the sign pre-eminently caught up in duality, more so than Libra, because it is called a Mutable sign. Mutable signs have a peculiarity in that they are the signs that change what has been initiated by the Cardinal, been consolidated in the Fixed and is finally released in the Mutable signs. Therefore the change the Cyclamen undergoes is the ability to perceive both sides; the positive and the negative. In Pulsatilla this duality is expressed in her moods, which are equally vacillatory as the indecision of Cyclamen which of the two in the bed is her.
                          Gemini needs to learn to see that this vacillation between the opposites is exactly the contrary of what is the real task; the integration of the two halves of the opposites as they are nothing more than the two sides of the same coin. This duality is often confusing and the Gemini gets lost in the choices they provide, without the ability to make a choice. Indecisiveness as an enduring state is dangerous for the Gemini, as it paralyses the ability for objectivity. The pretense of objectivity cannot be maintained without making a definitive choice. That choice needs to be the integration as without it the Gemini cannot be truly happy. The vacillatory state is pretense of objectivity, in which the Gemini/Cyclamen/Pulsatilla wants to present the opposite side only, because she cannot make up her mind. And she will say that this is just an opinion, which is the pretense of providing choice. Thus Gemini/Cyclamen has the tendency to be persuaded by confusing concepts. And she feels often confused and cannot perform the simplest task. There appears to be a state, in which she can no longer control either her mind or her body. She collapses in a chair and sits there without understanding the least of what is happening to her and this gives rise to the double lying in her bed and half overlapping her.
                          Pulsatilla will burst out in tears and is more gentle and mild, but can be equally out of touch with herself as Cyclamen. She is then mistrustful and sees in every approach of someone else a hidden motive. She may want to appropriate something she desires, but lacks the rudeness to do it. She would not dare to do things like that, even when she would really like to, because she is easily discouraged from radical actions. We will dwell on the ease with which she breaks out into tears, but these are also produced when she tells what bothers her.

                          “Weeps when telling her symptoms”
                          (Boericke W. Pocket manual of Homoeopathic Materia Medica)

                          She can be melancholic, full of care and grief for some poor animal that got run over or a particularly distressing episode of the news. She may get so anxious that she may go and commit suicide, or at least think about it, as also here she will lack the courage. She will experience such depth of pain, if she allows herself to be affected to such a degree, which for someone so easily led is not that difficult. She may at times break out in involuntary giggles, as if something very funny has occurred, while this is alternated or accompanied by tears. She laughs so much, she brings herself to tears. At times they fall into fits of anxiety, where she feels very restless especially around the heart, which palpitates and makes her feel hot. She then sits herself down out side in the garden and has to loosen her dress. She can hardly get the buttons undone because her hands tremble so much. Sometimes she may also feel quite nauseous, as if she is about to vomit. And Like Cyclamen, who does not want to see people, Pulsatilla may also not want to see them but for very different reasons. Pulsatilla is too scared to talk to people, while at night she thinks she sees ghosts in her room (Phosphorus).She wants to hide herself and run away from that which has given her such a fright. She fears ghosts so much, she cannot go to bed alone at night and she sees them creeping out of every corner.

                          When this is allowed to continue we see that Pulsatilla becomes taciturn and begins to act like Cyclamen; she sits down, with her hands in her lap, without saying a word, staring into space. She has this cold wandering air, as if her family no longer exists, and she walks around the house, sighing, or sits immobile in a chair not once uttering any complaint. when asked whether anything is wrong, she will answer with a monosyllable negative. She may then go over into a religious fervor, either constantly praying, saying mantras or affirmations, meanwhile rocking her legs back and forth, or when siting on the knees, rocking her body. She will suddenly demand to have something, while changing her mind the next and wanting yet another thing the following moment. After having had her dinner she may suddenly burst out in hysterical bursts of laughter alternating with being excessively sad with a gloomy aspect, especially after dark and the same dislike to talk to anyone and extremely touchy when it is insisted upon that she talks. She also may have days of apparent laziness, and actually feels disgusted with everything and treats everyone with contempt. Even if she would want to talk, she would have a hard time at it as she finds increasing difficulty with speaking her mind. And finally she comes to the point where she neither knows who she is or what she does. She has this incredible flow of changeful ideas and at night she raves, has a violent delirium in which she sometimes passes out completely.
                          Both have very similar menstrual problems with black blood, clots and pains, Pulsatilla is irregular – now early then late sometimes thick and dark, sometimes light and watery, or profuse or scanty. Cyclamen is having her periods too often, like every three weeks and they are black and clotty only. The day before she has a bloated belly, visibly swollen and her breasts become equally engorged and even secrete a fluid that looks like milk. Both can have the menses suppressed.
                          Both are thirstless, although there are many thirsty Pulsatillas and just as the mental symptoms in both can go either of two sides, the other symptoms follow suit. There are equally many Pulsatillas and Cyclamen, who like to eat butter, or get worse from going outside. Cyclamen’s appetite is more like Lycopodium, with its speedy satiety, like for warm food and weakness of appetite, in which there is fullness after a few mouthfuls. Natrum muriaticum also has these opposite symptoms, where two different states exist in the same person. With the polychrests we must remain open to opposite possibilities and symptoms, either in different subjects of the same remedy type, or be prepared to see all these states alternate in one and the same subject. Cyclamen has very similar stomach symptoms to Pulsatilla. Both are nauseous, will sometimes vomit, both dislike bread and butter as a rule, but Pulsatilla has more stomach symptoms.
                          She is taciturn and does not want to answer any questions. Like Pulsatilla, she suffers from moodswings but it is more sudden. And where Pulsatilla whines, Cyclamen has the tendency to keep her troubles more to herself. She has these ‘troubles of conscience,’ which she does not communicate, but broods over in silence. She may be in a foul mood and does not want to talk about it. She may appear at first as a Pulsatilla, but once her ill-tempered nature comes to the foreground, the difference is at once obvious. She is also more careless about her appearance:


                          Ill humour and slovenliness, with dislike to conversation, by fits.”
                          (Clarke J.H. Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica)

                          There are days that her house looks like a storm has just gone through, while at other times it is absolutely spotless. These swings of energy levels are typical of Cyclamen, while Pulsatilla is steadier in this respect. Pulsatilla’s mood also swings but not so fast, except for her touchiness, which makes her irritable. She goes very quickly into tears, but can be led into happier states equally easy. And where Cyclamen is more brooding, and alone in her moods, Pulsatilla wants everyone to know and needs hugs to calm down. Cyclamen snaps out of them by herself. The Cyclamen woman suffers from bouts of memory-loss, alternating with times of excellent memory, and it should not be forgotten in the elderly, when the grandmothers are generally sweeter than average – but not the Pulsatilla huggers – who suffer from bouts of memory-loss. We will produce a list of the differences and similarities below.

                          Pulsatilla
                          Mind
                          Mood-swings. Tearful, fearful, mild and gentle disposition, good natured. Covetous, mistrustful. Melancholy, worry about health and the family. Fear of death, care and grief. Sometimes suicidal, cannot stand heat, must loosen the dress. Anxiety. Weeps when telling symptoms

                          Dislike to see people, due to fear. Fear of ghosts at night and evening. Wants to hide or run away. Suspicion

                          Taciturn, sits with the hands crossed and refuses to answer, does not utter any complaint. Dislike to conversation. Answers in monosyllables.

                          Religious mania, sits and continually prays.

                          Kleptomania, steals what she desires to have. Covetous, discontented. Wants now this, then that, and rejects it when given.

                          Ill-humour, dislike to work or occupy herself with the household chores


                          Absence of mind, difficulty in expressing the thoughts, makes mistakes in writing, by omitting letters. Giddiness, she does neither know where she is, nor what she does. Absent-minded, low spirited

                          Great flow of very changeable ideas. Weakness of the memory.

                          Fixed ideas and stupidity.

                          Duality in moods, from happy to sad, either talks heartily or not at all, duality in mental capacity, and occupation with the household


                          Cyclamen
                          Mind
                          Mood-swings. Tearful, sometimes mild disposition, good disposition and nature. Worry about the health. Silently grieving.

                          Dislike to see people, due to ill-humour. Suspicion.


                          Taciturn, depressed and out of humour. Sits with the hands crossed without saying anything. Does not complain. Answers in monosyllables.

                          Hallucinations as if two persons were lying in the bed, and that the body of the other overlaps hers by half. Cannot decide which of the two is her.


                          Secret vexation and troubled conscience. As if she had committed a crime.

                          Ill-humour, dislike to work or occupy herself with household chores. Alternates with periods of tidiness.

                          Absence of mind. Dislike to conversation. Dullness and confusion of mind. Unfit for any occupation.


                          Memory alternatingly quick and weak.

                          Fixed ideas.

                          Duality in moods, from sad to happy, also in mental capacity and occupation with the household.

                          In summary we can say that these two remedies are very similar, but that Cyclamen is earlier affected by the negative side, while Pulsatilla, once in the negative cycle generally goes in deeper. It can be said that while Pulsatilla goes from her generally pleasant, to moody. Cyclamen is the opposite; she is generally moody, which at times is alternated with a happy, positive mood. There are some more superficial differences, mainly on the physical plane, which have been described. They are both very Gemini-like and being gentle and tearful women, in general very pleasant company.
                          Physically we shall see that there are decided differences, which are mostly opposite to each other. We will produce a second chart, to enable easy comparison.


                          Pulsatilla
                          Appetite
                          Putrid taste in the mouth with insipid or salty taste of food. Thirst-less in general, but thirsty types are not very rare. Taste lost or fatty. Loss of taste in colds. Sweetish, bitter or acid taste, also of food, like meat bread, butter beer or milk, which cause disgust. Great repugnance to butter, dislike to buttered bread.
                          Hungry and desire to eat, without knowing what, or complete loss of appetite.

                          Adipsia or excessive thirst. Likes beer wine or spirits. Coca cola and Sprite

                          Stomach
                          After a meal, nausea, eructations and vomiting. Eructations, regurgitations, with vomiting. Nausea and vomiting after fats and pork. Aching in pit of stomach, with ill-humour and weeping. Many other sufferings.
                          Ravenous hunger, with gnawing pain in the stomach

                          Female
                          Periods irregular, too late or too early, too short or too long,
                          Labour-like pains, obliging her to bend double. Drawing and pressive pains towards the uterus, feeling qualmish, at night in bed towards morning.
                          Abdomen painful, bloated with false pregnancy.
                          Blood black and clotted, mucus. sometimes pale a serous. Milk from the breasts of pre-puberal girls. Breasts swell after weaning.

                          Sleep
                          Constant sleepiness. Tendency top sleep during the day.
                          Falling asleep late in the evening. Sleepless till two o’clock.
                          Nightmare restless sleep, cries, moans, tossing about.
                          Sleep agitated, with disquieting dreams. dreams fearful, horrid, of quarrels, anxious, vivid, disgusting, of the dead.

                          Temperature.
                          Likes to be outside, even when it is chilly weather. Needs to walk to calm her down. Generally hot person. Likes light clothes. Feels always better in the open air. Cyclamen
                          Appetite
                          Putrid taste in the mouth with insipid taste of food. Thirstless du-ring day, thirsty in the evening, when face and hands become warm. Appetite weak, not very hungry. Speedy satiety, followed by disgust, at the start of a meal, with nausea. Vomiting. Great repugnance to bread and butter, on account of the latter. Cannot stand cold food. Less aversion to warm food.


                          Generally not thirsty during day. Thirsty in evening

                          After a meal, great inclination to sleep.

                          Stomach
                          Frequent risings, empty or acid. Rising, with hiccough, after a meal. Nausea, wants to vomit, specifically after fats. Nausea caused by eating and drinking.

                          In morning unusual hunger with nausea.


                          Female
                          Periods too often and too profuse.

                          Labour-like pains before the onset of the menses, at night in bed.


                          Abdomen bloated and swollen.

                          Blood black and clotted. Menses entirely suppressed. Milk from the greatly swollen breasts at the menstrual nisus.

                          Sleep
                          Likes to lie down and sleep.

                          Falling asleep late in the evening, feels the pulse in the brain.
                          On falling asleep, nightmare.

                          Sleep unrefreshing, with terrible nightmares. Dreams horrid, vivid anxious, fearful.


                          temperature
                          Dislike to be outside, especially in chilly weather. Needs to sit down to calm her down. Generally cold person. Dislike to light clothing, wants a warm cardigan. Feels always worse in the open air.

                          We see from these lists that there are marked differences, although it has been noted that they can turn into each other, through the agency of the Sepia mentality or that of Lycopodium. These latter two remedies have a more noncommittal attitude to life, especially in regards to other people. Thus the Cyclamen can easily become like either, because of her indifference to the household. She then becomes either more warm, through the Lycopodium stage, or more tearful through the Sepia stage, Both Lycopodium and Sepia may then go into a Pulsatilla, the former through a warmer personality, the latter through the moodiness. Further exposition of this theme can be found in my book Trios and their Implications in Homoeopathic Practice.

                          [This message has been edited by Ben Rozendal (edited 09 August 1999).]

                          [This message has been edited by Ben Rozendal (edited 09 August 1999).]

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                          • #14
                            Pat, I have posted the ISBN for Vermeulen's concordant materia medica on the children thread, under the heading for mamma3, by accident. I had quite a few people today and had forgotten who wanted it. Sorry for the inconvenience to both of you.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks Ben .......dont worry we all have those kind of days

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