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    Hello everyone, I am new to this board. I am working with a homeopath. After working with lower potencies of Natrum Mur, with some good results (but they stopped working), my homeopath has increased the potency to the CM potency. I know that the CM potency is the highest. I just wonder why I need such a high potency. I do have depression, but it is not severe by any stretch. Is the CM potency given often for Nat. Mur? Do the symptoms have to be severe in order to give CM? Both 50M and 10M worked for a little while, then stopped. What happens if the CM potency worked for a little while, then stops working like the others...there isn't a higher potency to go to. I would assume then that I had the wrong remedy to begin with. Am I correct?

  • #2
    Just one more question...If a remedy works for even a short period in a potency above 10M, would you say that it is the correct remedy? I ask because I have been told that higher potencies have to be bang-on exact in order to have any effect. Is that true. Thanks everyone.

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    • #3
      There is no single answer to your question. And I think you have to ask your homeoapth what he/she is thinking.

      IF the remedy is a similimum, there must be something antidoting, or the potency is still not right for you. The rule is to keep gradually increasing the potency and repetition (especially if you have had relief and no new symptoms) and then come right back to the bottom of the scale again.

      Then also maybe an LM potency scale may suit you better.

      The other possibility is that the remedy is not the exact similimum but something very close. And maybe the next remedy will be indicated soon.

      Your homeopath should be the best judge of that!
      Regards,
      doctorleela

      [ 29 May 2002, 18:37: Message edited by: doctorleela ]
      http://www.homeopathy2health.com

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      • #4
        The higher potency may exhaust its actionafter long time but if called by totality and lower potency fails higher may be given on short duration (as the improvement stops) .
        Complementary medicines may also be needed
        sometimes return to back i,e 10M , IM , and lower of same medicine help much to cure
        other reason may be some obstacle to cure which your doctor may find
        Dr.P.K.Sinha

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        • #5
          it's my opinion that an accurate prescriber would not need the high potencies in a case such as you describe.

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          • #6
            I would be interested in knowing the frequency of the various potencies you were given. How long did each one last?
            Shirley Reischman

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            • #7
              I find that when I'm forced to go up that high I probably have the wrong remedy. The thing is, most homeopaths just don't feel "professional" if they don't bring out the "heavy hitters".

              If you were my patient, I would drop down to a 6C three times a day in water with "succussions" before each dose, and you'd be surprised at the quick progress you would make, with no aggravations. As the potency wears off, you would go up to a 9C twice a day, 12C once a day, 15C and so on, and I've never had to go over a 30C in a chronic case. People get better real fast. We had a case here recently, Rahul's case, a fear of public speaking--he couldn't believe it; he said, "This can't be, I've only taken the remedy for little over a week--can it possibly be working this fast? I had a 3 hour meeting recently with important people, and I was fine!"

              I just happened to listen to a case presented at a conference recently by Timothy Dooley, MD--a colitis case--he started the patient on Oleander 12C once a day. When it wore off, he went up to 12C twice a day. When the 12C wore off he went up to 15C once a day, then 18C once a day, then to 30C once a day, but the patient had already improved dramatically on the 12C once a day--after roughly one to two weeks. It's surprising how well the daily low potencies work, and usually without aggravations, which is of no small importance.

              Snoopy

              [ 30 May 2002, 23:53: Message edited by: Snoopy ]

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              • #8
                I did not realize that there is such a relationship between the very high potencies and the very low potencies -- I thought that a low potency wouldn't be able to do anything if a high potency was having trouble curing...thanks everyone, I will suggest it to my homeopath.

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                • #9
                  The lower potencies have a broader band of action, so they often work, even if they are not the similimum, but merely the closenoughicum. The high potencies are really great, often like instant miracles, but you have to be very sure of the remedy.
                  Shirley Reischman

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                  • #10
                    Hi Princess Shirley! I think what a lot of us, Tim Dooley included, have discovered is that the low potencies aren't the Dweebs we thought they were. They have quite an unearned reputation. Because of their reputation, no one even tries them. We worship the 200's and 10M's,
                    but I think it's really important for us not to become the profession that makes you worse before you get better--it's a lousy logo, not the sort of catch-phrase that's going to make homeopathy the talk of the town. And if you read the 6th ed. of the Organon, Hahnemann says repeatedly that the high potencies act too violently in chronic disease; it's in numerous paragraphs. Just look at paragraph 161 and the footnote, for example.

                    Snoopy

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                    • #11
                      Hi Snoopy,

                      I'm not opposed to using low potencies - sometimes they're much better than high, but I also like high. It's a very individual thing.
                      Shirley Reischman

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                      • #12
                        Oh, and what is this thing about Princess?
                        Shirley Reischman

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                        • #13
                          Shirley,

                          I guess you're going to have to read Tomi Connor's thread again! You must have missed the post where you were referred to as a Princess!
                          In fact, I think I'll go back and reread it myself because I've forgotten the details, I just remember how funny it was!

                          Snoopy

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                          • #14
                            Shirley, here it is:

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                            >>The same situation is here. I don’t want to tell you who is “Goli” here. Who is Ruling team? Who is Umpire? (Every body knows) Because it might be an offence. But I will beyond doubt tell you that princess is Shirley Reichman. Time will come when umpire will review his decision, when princess will tell him about the written rules. And she already told him about the previous written BB rules. Let’s watch the movie again.

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                            [ 05 May 2002, 08:25: Message edited by: jshah ]

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                            Do practice like Hahnemann.

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                            • #15
                              Ah, and you replied -

                              posted 08 May 2002 04:49
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                              You're no Princess Shirley!

                              Snoopy
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                              Shirley Reischman

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