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  • Safety of BIOCHEMIC CELL SALTS(Truth of Myth)

    This is regarding the safety of BIOCHEMIC CELL SALTS. Contrary to the popular belief that BIOCHEMIC CELL SALTS are extremely safe, there is a discussion going on at abchomeopathy forum. the link is give below:
    http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/42849/
    Dr. Lew is of the opinion that the biochemic cell salts if wrongly prescribed can cause contraindications contrary to the popular belief that they are excreted through the urine.
    Comments from all experienced homeopaths are invited after going through the posts on the abovementioned forum as this is gonna be a good discussion.

  • #2
    Dr Lew is wrong.I have read his long and comprehensive posting.
    sajjad.

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    • #3
      yogeshnagpal wrote (21.11.05) :

      " that the biochemic cell salts if wrongly prescribed can cause contraindications contrary to the popular belief that they are excreted through the urine."

      There are other routes of excretion of the ingested cell-salts besides through the urine, namely, perspiration and salivation. And what is ingested as Sodium in the cellsalt may be excreted as transmutated Potassium through the process of Biological Transmutation in the body.
      The rationale of Urinetherapy is based on these transmutated trace minerals besides enzymes and hormones. I drink a morning mid-stream sample of my urine daily.

      With regards
      Lew

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      • #4
        Dear Lew,

        Drinking urine daily is something else.The salt contains in the urine are in material form.With biochemic salt this is not the case.You can measure the salt excreted in the urine but biochemic salt cannot be measured.Where they go i dont know.
        sajjad.

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        • #5
          Dear Lew,

          what i mentioned was
          "Dr. Lew is of the opinion that the biochemic cell salts if wrongly prescribed can cause contraindications contrary to the popular belief that they are excreted through the urine."

          Any Comments.

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          • #6
            According to my informations,cell salts are not eliminated through the urine.I f any body has any evidence please infirm.

            sajjad.

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            • #7
              this is interesting. I want to know how are they excreted. Plz let me know asap.

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              • #8
                sajjad wrote:

                < ...The salt contains in the urine are in material form.With biochemic salt this is not the case.You can measure the salt excreted in the urine but biochemic salt cannot be measured.Where they go i dont know. >

                sajjad. please tell me what exactly is that in the biochemic salt that cannot be measured.

                With regards
                Lew

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                • #9
                  the dose of the biochemic cell salt that the body is supplied is extremely infinitesimal. With such an atomic and microatomic dose, no microscope present on the earth can detect the presence of salts in the urine.

                  While the mineral supplements(Allopathic) that are available contain material doses of the same inorganic substances which may not be absorbed by the body and may be excreted out through the urine which is measurable since it is a material dose and not titurated.

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                  • #10
                    Dear members

                    It may greatly enhance the value of this tread, if posters familiarize themselves with the manufactoring process and aplication of tissue salts according Dr. Schuessler.

                    My own investigations have brought out that:

                    Schuessler sees his tissue salts as medication, ie. if aplied in a suitable way having remedial character.
                    Therefore the same pharmaceutical principles aply as to diluted and potentised medications used for the purpose of homeopathic therapy.
                    This self-evidently includes the possible harmfulness of such substances if not used according their specific way.
                    Hans Weitbrecht
                    HOMEOPATH / IRELAND

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                    • #11
                      Greetings to all forum members

                      Hans Weitbrecht (22nd November 2005 02:19 AM) commented:


                      " Schuessler sees his tissue salts as medication, ie. if aplied in a suitable way having remedial character. "




                      In March ,1873, Dr. Schussler of Oldenburg, Germany, enunciated
                      his new system of using " The Twelve Tissue Salts ", bringing physio-chemical and physio-pathological facts to bear on
                      his therapuetic procedure. According to Dr. Schussler, disease is a result of a
                      disturbance of the molecular motion of one of the 12 inorganic tissue salts. Restoration of health by supplying a minimal dose of the same inorganic salt to rectify the molecular configuration of the affected cell or tissue salt,constitutes a cure. Virchow defines disease as an altered state of the cell. Potassium Chloride [Kali Muriaticum], is one of the 12 tissue salts of Schussler.The pure chloride is prepared by trituration
                      according to homeopathic pharmaceutical rules. A proving of the 6x dynamization is reported in the Homeopathic Recorder,1900. The 6x trituration caused a bad sore throat,pain on swallowing even water,tonsils inflammed,throat filled with tough ,stringy mucus,ankle joints puffy. The prover was perfectly well until he commenced to take the Kali Muriaticum [ Potassium Chloride ].




                      The Patho-physiology of the cell-salt , Potassium Chloride ( Kali Muriaticum )






                      According to Dr. Schussler, the cell salt, potassium chloride has
                      a significant biochemical role in the formation and production of fibrin. Fibrin is produced by the interaction of the chloride of potassium,with oxygen,on certain albuminoids. Biochemically, it has been demonstrated that fibrin cannot be synthesized in the absence of potassium chloride and that the fibrin cannot be held in proper solution in the blood without the correct balance of the cell salt.

                      The white or grey coating on the tongue, mucous lining or tonsils,
                      is the fibrin that has become non-functional because of a deficiency of potassium chloride and oxygen. Similar fibrinous exudations are also found in discharges or expectorations of a thick,white slime or phlegm, from any of the mucous membranes,or in flour-like scaling of the skin. When the epidermal cells are irritated, molecules of Kali mur are lost and fibrin in the form of a white or greyish exudation, is thrown off. This, in drying, becomes a mealy eruption. If the irritation extends to the tissues beneath the epidermis,both fibrin and serum will exude,and the involved part of the skin will be pushed up in the form of blisters. This is exactly what takes place in small-pox,cow-pox and vaccine disease. Similar processes can take place within and among epithelial cells in mucosal lining.

                      When the integrity of the affected cells are restored by administration of Kali muriaticum molecules, a reabsorption or throwing off of the exudation [mucus] occurs. This is attained by the production of hydrochloric acid formed by one part of chlorine from K Cl with hydrogen. The hydrochloric acid formed , dissolves the fibrin in its incipient stage of formation. This patho-physiological phenomenon corresponds to the second stage of inflammation of serous membranes. Our concept of disease should be based on the observation that in a dysfunctional cell, there is initially a disorientation with a change in the number of electrons in the molecules which brings about alteration in the structures of the cell. Energy Repair People that we are, in reality, are Mother Nature's universal energy transformers in tune with Schumann's Resonances in the environment, each vibrating sympathetically through his or her own genotrophic mechanism of bioradiation of cell-salts ( Life Force), to restore Homeostasis or Energy Balance. The new molecules and cells are electromagnetically rebuilt with precise geometric orientation by electronic insertion at the specific disrupted links . How the cellsalts are orchestrated ?

                      How can a part hear the Whole or a note the Melody ? Again, it is Mozart's Reincarnation of Harmony - the Mutual Liking of Two Notes - CoResonance.



                      The Primordial Harmonic Template of the Universe ( Quantum


                      Spherical Standing Wave )






                      " Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper." - Albert Einstein








                      With regards
                      Lew

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                      • #12
                        12 cell salts are our regular biochemicals which we may be daily ingesting as our food etc. in sufficient quantity, much more than whatever is present in even in 3X. So, it may be difficult to accept that their physiological effect as raw chemical in remedies can produce some harmful/toxic effects.These will effect as food containing these salts eg; common salt/Nat. Mur.

                        In respect of their potentised effects, that will be in accordance with homeopathic/isopathical aggravations or proving symptoms.
                        Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
                        Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cellsalts
                          sajjad wrote:
                          Originally posted by cellsalts

                          < ...The salt contains in the urine are in material form.With biochemic salt this is not the case.You can measure the salt excreted in the urine but biochemic salt cannot be measured.Where they go i dont know. >

                          sajjad. please tell me what exactly is that in the biochemic salt that cannot be measured.

                          With regards
                          Lew
                          sajjad said : < You can measure the salt excreted in the urine but biochemic salt cannot be measured.Where they go i dont know. >

                          This rang a bell. It brought me back to those tutorial days in Energyinformatics when I experimented in recording biofields of dead plants and fish with a special hand held resonance counter .
                          Research and experimentation led to a significant discovery about the nature of matter, and its relation to electromagnetic fields. This discovery, which is called Potential Mass Theory, is essential to the understanding and accurate measurement of electromagnetic fields, and thus all paranormal phenomena.According to the Einstein equation, E mC all manifested (physical) matter is composed of; and animated by, a large electrical field of energy, measured in units called Joules. Conversely, every measurable field of electromagnetic energy is capable of manifesting as a certain amount of mass, m, as determined by the Einstein equation.The reality of manifestation, however, is that some energies remain electromagnetic, and do not manifest as mass, and some energies that do manifest retain large amounts of uninanifested energy as mental or life force energy. Thus, inherent in electromagnetic field energy is a potential to manifest as physical matter, or mass. In other words, all that exists in the Universe must be either physical or metaphysical (manifest or non-manifest). Potential Mass Theory states that if an object or entity does not have actual mass, it must have the potential to manifest as mass, or to have effect upon mass through the quantum particles. Electromagnetic energy that is not manifest cannot have physical mass, and thus can only have Potential Mass, by definition. Experiments and research have shown that such electromagnetic fields can be measured by radio-field voltage, using a sensitive digital voltmeter connected to a sensitive multifrequency antenna. Placing the antenna in the location of a subtle energy field or metaphysical object will cause the voltmeter to record the precise voltage contained in the electromagnetic field. This voltage reading is very important, because we may use it to calculate much useful information about the nature of the metaphysical body in question.





                          Physicists seem to rely mostly on numbers and instrumentation to "see" and map resonances. An artist relies on his or her senses and intuitions.
                          Scientists have also discovered that the basis of all the brain's functions has to do with the interaction between the brain and the Zero Point Field ( The Physical Vacuum ). New evidence shows the brain's conversations with the body might also occur on the quantum level, with waves and frequencies, rather with chemical or electrical impulses alone. Our memories don't sit inside our heads at all. Our brains are simply the retrieval and read-out mechanism of the ultimate storage medium - The Life Field (Burr).







                          The human mind is capable of two kinds of Knowledge or Consciousness: Rational and Intuitive. Rational Knowledge is thus a system of abstract concepts and symbols,characterised by the linear, sequential structure which is typical of our thinking. Thus it is construction of an intellectual map of reality in which things are reduced to their outlines without intrinsic knowledge but the map is not the territory. The natural world with intuitive consciousness, is one of infinite varieties and complexities,a multi- dimensional world which contains no straight lines or completely regular shapes where things do not happen in sequences but all to- gether simultaneously. It is a world where the empty space is also curved. Subatomic particles are not made of any material stuff; they are patterns of energy. Energy, is associated with activity with process and this implies that the nature of subatomic particles is intrinsically dynamic. When we observe , we never see any substance,nor any fundamental structure. What we observe are dynamic patterns continually changing into one another - a continuous dance of "
                          All things.... are aggregations of atoms that dance and by their movements produce sounds. When the rhythm of the dance changes, the sound it produces also changes. each atom perpetually sings its song, and the sound, at every moment, creates dense and subtle forms. "





                          -- Alexandra David-Neel in Tibetan Journey






                          In modern physics, sound is a wave with a certain frequency which changes when the sound does,and that particles, the modern equivalent of the old concept of atoms, are also waves with frequencies proportional to their energies. According to field theory,each particle does indeed ' perpetually sing its song ', producing rhythmic patterns of energy in ' dense and subtle forms ' . In



                          The late Dr. Hans Jenny, a Swiss doctor, artist, and researcher like jurist, musician and physicist Ernst Chladni, two hundred years earlier was convinced that biological evolution was a result of vibrations, and that their nature determined the ultimate outcome. He speculated that every cell had its own frequency and that a number of cells with the same frequency created a new frequency which was in harmony with the original, which in its turn possibly formed an organ that also created a new frequency in harmony with the two preceding ones. Jenny was saying that the key to understanding how we can heal the body with the help of tones lies in our understanding of how different frequencies influence genes, cells and various structures in the body. He also suggested that through the study of the human ear and larynx we would be able to come to a deeper understanding of the ultimate cause of vibrations.


                          The Living Void [ Physical Vacuum ]


                          Form is emptiness, and emptiness is indeed form. Emptiness is not different from Form,Form is not different from Emptiness. What is Form that is Emptiness, what is Emptiness that is Form ? The Physical Vacuum, as it is called in Field Theory, is not a state of mere nothingness but contains the potentiality for all forms of the particle world. These forms,in turn, are not independent physical entities but merely transcient manifestations of the underlying Void. The Great Void cannot but consist of Chi, Prana or Vital Force; this Zero Point Energy, Chi or etheric nothingness cannot but condense to form all things; and these things cannot but become dispersed so as to form , once more ,the Great Void. At the time of its condensation, can one say otherwise than that this is but temporary? But at the time of its dispersing, can one hastily say that it is then non-existent ? Thus Chi condenses and disperses rhythmically, bringing forth all forms which eventually dissolve into the Void. Solid objects with Form dissipate quanta as Colour. Thus, No Form, No Colour. Most of the time, every thing is not black, white, grey, red or yellow but is mostly invisible - The 2004 Nobel Prize Winning " Colour Force " of Quarks and Gluons, but Only the Sound of Light in the vibrant DNA, the Living Wave in the Universal Mind.

                          Light is liquified Gas. <http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992497>


                          With regards
                          Lew

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                          • #14
                            Certainly my container of

                            Biochemic Tissue Salts is marked as having a potency of 6x and thus has a small but detectable amount of the originating substance.

                            I may be mis remembering but I think that 12c was the lowest potency that could not possibly contain any of the originating substance

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cellsalts
                              yogeshnagpal wrote (21.11.05) :

                              " that the biochemic cell salts if wrongly prescribed can cause contraindications contrary to the popular belief that they are excreted through the urine."

                              There are other routes of excretion of the ingested cell-salts besides through the urine, namely, perspiration and salivation. And what is ingested as Sodium in the cellsalt may be excreted as transmutated Potassium through the process of Biological Transmutation in the body.
                              The rationale of Urinetherapy is based on these transmutated trace minerals besides enzymes and hormones. I drink a morning mid-stream sample of my urine daily.

                              With regards
                              Lew
                              Hello, btw can you tell how urine therapy can work? Body loosing those chemicals which are excess/imbalanced/not required in body. How then it can help unless we are loosing in excess due to some disorded as protiens?
                              Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
                              Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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