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    Can smoking dope on very rare occasions (like once every 6 months) mess up your treatment to the extent that homeopahy can't help you anymore? Knowing that I'm taking homeopathy for the ailment of anxiety and bad mood.

    What about MDMA (Ecstacy)??

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    Dear AGS
    If you have gone to a homeopath and paid for his/her services it's best to keep these things at bay till you are well on your way to healing.Doing a casetaking is verry difficult and costly,why spoil it. Cann I. is a plant med in itself sometimes also used by homeopaths,so the interaction might confuse your case.
    Any drug can cause a interaction,while you are on homeopathic remedies. Even taking a sip of coffee can stop remedies in it's tracks.Or drinking peppermint tea. I'm sure you were told this by your homeopath........Yes?
    I would hold off for now...........................

    What remedy have you been given to take? Are you seeing results?
    Gina Tyler
    "Great ideas often recieve violent opposition from mediocre minds"...................Einstein

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    • #3
      Dear Mr Jacob,
      I would like to differ on this point.I had a case of acute fever which had the mentals of acute disorientation of time and space along with delusions of grandeur. The case responded superbly to a single dose of cannabis indica 30

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jacob
        I would never even give Cannabis Indica (Hashish) as a Homoeopathic remedy, except to antidote the crude substance.
        And that would be isopathy.

        Originally posted by Jacob
        It is a vile drug, and in my opinion has no medicinal value whatsoever, as it's symptomology simply does not correspond to any natural disease I have ever seen. The mentals of this drug especially do not correspond, and it is these which we should consider as the most important symptoms when prescribing.
        Just because YOU haven't seen ever Cann-I indicated in a case - doesn't mean it's a remedy with no medicinal value.

        The 'mentals of this drug..do not correspond' ....to what????
        Wow. So you always have to have a mental symptom to be able to prescribe? What if there are no discernable changes from a patient's normal mental state???
        "The significance of a fact is measured by the capacity of the observer."
        Carroll Dunham

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        • #5
          Thanks Gina and thanks Jacob,

          Actually what I took was Hashish, I also smoked it 6 months ago but before that I was off it for 2 years. More than 3 years ago I was heavily smoking it and 5 years ago I was taking Ecstacy heavily for about 2 years.

          I started Homeopathy around a year and a half ago. I was taking a nosode but my Homeopath preferred not to tell me the name of the remedy. I was also taking Cipralex for 2 years but got off it like 3 - 4 months back (very gradually). When I'd take the daily remedy I would feel better but the effect wares off as soon as I stop. Recently we changed the remedy and I felt much better after taking the 200C but after like one month I dropped again... and then I smoked the Hashih 2 weeks back and now I feel like ****... very down..

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          • #6
            Hi all!

            Well, since i am not a qualified homeopath i will not comment on the use of cannabis or marihuana while under homeo treatment.

            BUT.....this thread is very interesting for me since i actually at the same time of my health beeing bad, i lived at a friends house a couple of weeks where it was smoked marihuana and cannabis regularly. I have been wondering much about the effects and if there could be any connections.

            This happenede summer 2002. To make a short description in april that year got a large cortisone shot because of a back injury in 1999 and from july til august i lived in apartment with fumes from cannabis/marihuana.

            To put this into perspective: In march-april that year i was training in the gym two-three times a week and bicycled easy 50km in one day going on trips. In september same year i was exhausted from walking up stairs and could not bicycle longer than 1-2 km before exhausted. After aug-sept that year it is like i have been living in a dream and my health has been really lousy.

            So, do anyone have comments on the effects of cortisone contra cannabis/marihuana upon body? I am not sure what those guys was smoking but it was either cannabis or marihuana.....

            Fredrik

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            • #7
              Dear members

              Using other drugs while on homeopathic treatment makes the outcome unpredictable.
              Mind altering drugs, (and such are LSd and Canabis to a certain extent ) may mess-up the case from that point of view, that the powers of observation of the patient are altered, or likewise certain sensations are felt more prominent and others are not due to the numbing capacities of those drugs.

              Drug induced diseses can be of a longterm character even if the user stopped the drug intake. This is well documented for Heroin users and to a lesser degree for cannabis. I have seen these drug diseases combine with Psora and thereby forming a monster disease difficult to almost impossible to cure.

              There is still a myth in the heads of some members, that disease wraps itself around Humans in layers, and that they can be peeled off by homeopathic remedies. Daily experience shows, that this is not so.

              Reg.; Cannabis indicana, -- i had 2-3 cases in the past which responded well to this remedy when it was indicated by symptom similitude. One I can recalll of a case of chronic Kidney infection
              Hans Weitbrecht
              HOMEOPATH / IRELAND

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hans Weitbrecht
                Reg.; Cannabis indicana, -- i had 2-3 cases in the past which responded well to this remedy when it was indicated by symptom similitude. One I can recalll of a case of chronic Kidney infection
                Dear Hans!

                Would you have a comment on my post, in regard that you have treated 2-3 cases with Cannabis Indica. May i ask if any of them was due to use of Cannabis?

                Thank you very much!

                Fredrik

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                • #9
                  Dear Jacob!

                  Thank you very much for a good answer, which was answering exactly what i wanted to know.

                  I think maybe there must be some combination of the Cannabis fumes, Painting fumes and Cortisone that put my probs on, and it would be interesting for me to locate what happened so that i could keep them out of reach or avoid in the future.

                  I am under gret care, so i am not worried about getting cured at some point, but it is always interesting to investigate the true cause for ones problems.

                  So thank you very much again for these insights into Cannabis effects Jacob!

                  Fredrik

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                  • #10
                    You can't prescribe on what's not there!

                    So, while we may get away with prescribing such remedies purely on physical grounds in this way, as far as I am concerned, the risk to the patient is far to great, if they are not present.

                    If there are no (mental/emotional) symptoms - there are no symptoms! We cannot make them up. We can only go with the symptoms that are obviously there and carefully analyse what's present! Even if they are only physical.

                    Where is it said that, "if there are no mental or emotional symptoms then the risk to the patient is great"??

                    If the patient's case has no mental or temperament type indications, select a remedy which also has none as part of it's drug picture.
                    You're joking. Right?
                    "The significance of a fact is measured by the capacity of the observer."
                    Carroll Dunham

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                    • #11
                      Dear Jacob!

                      I like you feedbacks alot they have a tendency to explain what i wonder bout and more, thank you again!

                      I am sure that those hundreds of millions of people that smoke cannabis on a regularly basis around the world, though probably very unhealthy, do not get any of the effects i think i have maybe had from the exposure to those fumes.

                      I am would agree totally that it in a homeopathic view does not care much wether it was the cortisone, paint fumes or cannabis fumes that brought out the disease. But it would be of interest for my personal future welfare to know what caused it of course.

                      So again thank you very much Jacob!

                      Fredrik

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                      • #12
                        Jacob,

                        you can always see SOMETHING resembling temperament, even if there are no actual marked symptoms in this area)
                        So you look for temperament traits to prescribe on? Even if there is no change from the normal state of the patient?

                        You said:

                        So, while we may get away with prescribing such remedies purely on physical grounds in this way, as far as I am concerned, the risk to the patient is far to great, if they [mental/emotional symptoms] are not present.
                        And I was simply asking where did you hear, read or learn this??

                        If symptoms point to a remedy - they point to a remedy.

                        If you prescribe a remedy which has, as the highest level of it's drug proving, severe mental derangement, this should also be present to some degree in the patient, or at least some pointers toward this. If it is not, then the remedy is merely a similar, and NOT the similium, which may still bring about cure in acute cases, but it also carries the risk of the patient DEVELOPING these mentals due to their 'un-Homoeopathicity' to the case.
                        Who says if a remedy has severe mental derangement amongst its proving symptoms that those mental derangements must be present for it to be useful in a case??

                        How is it that you think there is a difference between the terms 'similar' and 'simillimum'? They are synonymus. Why do you speak as if they aren't? I've seen this several times now in some of your posts. Unless you subscribe to the notion that there is 'one grand simillimum' for each patient.
                        "The significance of a fact is measured by the capacity of the observer."
                        Carroll Dunham

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LisaAnnan
                          How is it that you think there is a difference between the terms 'similar' and 'simillimum'? They are synonymus. Why do you speak as if they aren't? I've seen this several times now in some of your posts. Unless you subscribe to the notion that there is 'one grand simillimum' for each patient.
                          Dear LisaAnnan, do you REALLY think there is no difference between a similar remedy and a similium?
                          Love is the Answer.

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                          • #14
                            I was simply asking Jacob to clarify what he meant.
                            "The significance of a fact is measured by the capacity of the observer."
                            Carroll Dunham

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