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  • #31
    Re: eizayaga method

    I find that some who wish to use so-called drainage, organ, tissue, of systems remedies limit themselves to a few well known remedies that may or may not work on the individual.
    I hope I didn't lead you to believe Tito practices this way, from what I have experienced, he does not. We did have discussions on some cases, and there were times he told me that such and such a case had a 'weak heart', and he couldn't go higher or more direct due to that condition as it would over stress the heart. So his first (lower dose) Rx remedies, were aqueous and more direct on the pathology.

    But certainly not routine.
    Originally posted by Maria
    Originally posted by David
    Another comment here, Tito most certainly uses high potencies, very, very, very high potencies, such as LM 200's and maybe even much higher. I don't know much about this, as we have not had extensive discussions on it. But from what I understand to go after the miasmatic tendencies the South American homeopaths will go very high.
    Are you saying he used the LM potency up to the 0/200! If so, that is the highest I have heard of. I have noticed the the better I select the remedy the less I seem to need ultra high potencies. I have seen lower to moderate LM potency affect the miasms very effectively. They seem to have an affinity with such states.
    I don't know how frequently they go that high, and perhaps even higher. I was quite surprised to hear this.

    This is why I forwarded some of these emails to Tito and perhaps he will comment to us.

    The impression he gave me is that these high potencies are indeed used in South America, I don't know if they made them or purchased them. I just know he told me his homeopath gave him one of those very high LM potencies. The impression I got was they 'jumped' up to these higher potencies towards the end of treatment, rather than sequentially used them as we do (and I believe they do) with the lower LMs in pathological conditions.

    I know I have followed LMs on occasions with a 1M or 10M if the case seemed to need it. (But not frequently, I must admit).

    So, rather than give you erronious secondary information, I am going to contact him to be sure I am imparting accuracy.

    Tito's English is very understandable, but I don't know how well he writes our language.
    Originally posted by David
    Then one should study with a variety of homoeopaths using different styles and absorb what they a good and forget the rest. When one wishes to learn some very good insights into the materia medica then homeopaths like Massimo are excellent. When it comes to advanced posology, flexible case management and treating one-sided diseases, complex miasms, and heavy organic pathology then one must look somewhere else.
    Yes, I absolutely agree with you. There are not sufficent opportunities to study with several masters in the USA, something I have been trying to change.

    Originally posted by David
    33% failure of our cases is a number that is too great to accept. This 33% most likely is made of those who do not suit the grand constitutional remedy that is supposed to be good for everything.
    Yes, and I may have misunderstood Massimo, as that may just have been what he said. I have greatly benefitted by his view of cases and remedy studies.


    But, as you have said, there are other ways to treat and still stick close to what Hahnemann's teachings.


    Warmest regards,

    Maria

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    • #32
      Re: eizayaga method

      Originally posted by Maria
      I hope I didn't lead you to believe Tito practices this way, from what I have experienced, he does not. We did have discussions on some cases, and there were times he told me that such and such a case had a 'weak heart', and he couldn't go higher or more direct due to that condition as it would over stress the heart. So his first (lower dose) Rx remedies, were aqueous and more direct on the pathology. But certainly not routine.
      Hello,


      I was not relating this directly to Tito. I was taking about those who tend to limit their choice of such remedies to a few specifics. I was speaking about how to expand the field of remedies and enhance individualization.
      Originally posted by Maria
      I don't know how frequently they go that high, and perhaps even higher. I was quite surprised to hear this. This is why I forwarded some of these emails to Tito and perhaps he will comment to us.
      Originally posted by Maria
      The impression he gave me is that these high potencies are indeed used in South America, I don't know if they made them or purchased them. I just know he told me his homeopath gave him one of those very high LM potencies. The impression I got was they 'jumped' up to these higher potencies towards the end of treatment, rather than sequentially used them as we do (and I believe they do) with the lower LMs in pathological conditions.
      Such high LM potencies are not available in India although up to around 0/60 of some remedies can be purchased.
      Originally posted by Maria
      I know I have followed LMs on occasions with a 1M or 10M if the case seemed to need it. (But not frequently, I must admit).
      Originally posted by Maria
      So, rather than give you erronious secondary information, I am going to contact him to be sure I am imparting accuracy.
      Tito's English is very understandable, but I don't know how well he writes our language.
      It would be nice to hear what they are doing.
      Originally posted by Maria
      There are not sufficent opportunities to study with several masters in the USA, something I have been trying to change.
      I believe in taking the best of what others have to offer and without laboring to much about what they don't really understand. In this way, one can learn something from almost everybody.

      Originally posted by Maria
      Yes, and I may have misunderstood Massimo, as that may just have been what he said. I have greatly benefitted by his view of cases and remedy studies.
      Many of the constitutionalist are very good with the materia medica although their posology and case management is sometimes limited in perspective. Their work jn the MM should not be overlooked because of stylistic differences. I consider some of these people "specialists". I, however, and just an old fashioned general practitioner.

      Originally posted by Maria
      But, as you have said, there are other ways to treat and still stick close to what Hahnemann's teachings.
      The seed and roots of the tree of Homoeopath are found in Hahnemann. This is really the best place to start one's studies as it makes for a very strong foundation. Without this basis one's practice is not really grounded. The trunk of the tree of Homoeopathy grew with Boenninghausen, Hering, Jahr, Stapf and Gross and others of the first generation. Then the branches spread out with Lippe, Kent, Schmidt, H.C. Allen, J.H. Allen, T.F. Allen, Clarke, Burnett, Boger and others in the later 19th and early 20th century. The leaves are the contemporary practitioners who have been inspired insights by great modern homoeopaths like E. Whitmont, who introduced Jungian psychology to Homoeopathy. The fruits are the spread of Homoeopathy to a new generation of patients and practitioners. The seeds of the next generation that will grow into new trees long after I am gone!


      Simila Minimus
      Sincerely, David Little

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      • #33
        (oops!! sorry ! to all- I made a mess) Eizayaga

        Dear Sue, Dr Luc , All,
        Terribly sorry. If it was first my non understanding
        of the context from the book, the second more non
        pardonable one was done even after I took up the book.
        Sorry to all again, esp to Dr Luc, and to the departed
        Dr Eizayaga (I never knew he was no more alive).

        Venkat
        --- Sue Startup <sue.startup@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

        > Dear Venkat,
        > In my copy of AMS, it reads " I am sorry that
        > Eizayga is deceased
        > because i would have asked him why he
        > thought........"
        > It seems there has been a printing error.
        > Best wishes.
        > Sue
        >
        > >
        > >can't believe it !!!!
        > >Dr Luc please take your book AMS, page 85
        > >Subheading 'Eizayaga's statements'
        > >
        > >Dr Fransisco Eizayaga said in his treatise of
        > >homeopathic medicine that
        > >
        > >"We disregard the position taken by Hahnemann and

        > kent
        > >concerning the dangers of repeating doses because

        > they
        > >never justified reasons for this positions by
        > >performing experiments, collecting statistical

        > data,
        > >or mentioning clinical experiences (Eizayaga, 1991

        > p
        > >214)
        > >
        > >Iam sorry Eizayaga is diseased because I would have
        > >asked him why he thought that Hahnemann never
        > >performed any experiments or collected dataon his
        > >clinical methods or experience..........
        > >
        > >Why do you suddenly duck ?
        > >Puzzled
        > >venkat
        > >--- dr luc <drluc@cybermesa.com> wrote:
        > >
        > >> Dear friends
        > >>
        > >> Regarding Dr Eizayaga! First of all: I never

        > said,
        > >> he is a "diseasewd" homeopath! I wonder why such
        > >> sentences are used unless to stir up a hornet's

        > nest
        > >> which some people seem to enjoy to practrice

        > their
        > >> sarcasm on. I attended a 3 day seminar of him

        > and
        > >> was only disappointed in the fact that he

        > blasted
        > >> Hahnemann and LM prescriptions (knowing nothing
        > >> about it), called Homeopatrhy is not a religion,
        > >> etc. It is disappointing hearing this from him.

        > I
        > >> like the book he wrote and I comment on some

        > things
        > >> in my new book AMS. But cewrtain;ly I am

        > convinced
        > >> he did a lot of good and in no way, dear Luise,
        > >> would I call him "diseased." On a teleconference
        > >> with his son. who took over the practice, I

        > asked
        > >> him what the difference was between his father's
        > >> method and von Boenninghausen method? The answer
        > >> was: Who is von Boenninghausen? I think that the
        > >> older Eizayaga had a very solid method but it

        > was
        > >> derived from whatever the old masters did
        > >> (especially VB). There is nothing wrong with it,

        > I
        > >> always give the kudos to where they belong.

        > Indeed
        > >> Eizayaga used 6C for his chronic cases, dry

        > doses,
        > >> repeated most of the time trhree times a day.
        > >>
        > >> With that said, if every homeopath was as good

        > as
        > >> the old Eizayaga, homeopathy would be on a

        > better
        > >> place
        > >>
        > >> Warm regards
        > >> dr luc
        > >> www.drluc.com
        > >> drluc@cybermesa.com
        > >>

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        • #34
          dear colleagues,

          I am a classical homoeopath based in kolkata, INDIA

          i am looking for a very experienced homoeopath who can treat a family member. this patient is a constitutional SEPIA case but, has taken many many homoeopathic remedies in various potencies (including very high) and has gone through severe (almost life threatening dissimilar aggravation due to a wrong remedy. the vitality seems to have broken down and now the constitutional remedy (sepia) that was found after many years of suffering is not working very well.

          patient is male. 41. unmarried. the main symptoms of the patient were/are: sleep cycle disorder (sleeps in daytime and no sleep at night) for last 20 years, hair fall, OCD (mild to moderate), severe itching and wetness in ears, tinnitus, sexual weakness, weakness + stiffness in joints and fibromyalgia (this started after severe aggravation due to calc. phos. 10M taken 5 or so years ago), history of strong sweetish smell in urine / milky urine, twitching of left upper eyelid, pus pockets in left tonsil, weakness, neurofiboma.

          sepia has been tried in 30C and 200C.

          LM potencies tend to prove.

          i am wondering if this person can be healed totally with EIZAYAGA method or any other method. can anyone help? can anyone recommend some expert person who can handle such cases?
          i am looking for some compassionate person in india or any country.
          i will be grateful for your kindness.
          fees may be paid by paypal.

          please reply at the earliest.

          regards

          dr manish agarwala

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          • #35
            dear colleagues,

            I am a classical homoeopath based in kolkata, INDIA

            i am looking for a very experienced homoeopath who can treat a family member. this patient is a constitutional SEPIA case but, has taken many many homoeopathic remedies in various potencies (including very high) and has gone through severe (almost life threatening dissimilar aggravation due to a wrong remedy. the vitality seems to have broken down and now the constitutional remedy (sepia) that was found after many years of suffering is not working very well.

            patient is male. 41. unmarried. the main symptoms of the patient were/are: sleep cycle disorder (sleeps in daytime and no sleep at night) for last 20 years, hair fall, OCD (mild to moderate), severe itching and wetness in ears, tinnitus, sexual weakness, weakness + stiffness in joints and fibromyalgia (this started after severe aggravation due to calc. phos. 10M taken 5 or so years ago), history of strong sweetish smell in urine / milky urine, twitching of left upper eyelid, pus pockets in left tonsil, weakness, neurofiboma.

            sepia has been tried in 30C and 200C.

            LM potencies tend to prove.

            i am wondering if this person can be healed totally with EIZAYAGA method or any other method. can anyone help? can anyone recommend some expert person who can handle such cases?
            i am looking for some compassionate person in india or any country.
            i will be grateful for your kindness.
            fees may be paid by paypal.

            please reply at the earliest.

            regards

            dr manish agarwala

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            • #36
              Originally posted by AH View Post
              Re: eizayaga method

              .......

              Andy

              dear colleagues,

              I am a classical homoeopath based in kolkata, INDIA

              i am looking for a very experienced homoeopath who can treat a family member. this patient is a constitutional SEPIA case but, has taken many many homoeopathic remedies in various potencies (including very high) and has gone through severe (almost life threatening dissimilar aggravation due to a wrong remedy. the vitality seems to have broken down and now the constitutional remedy (sepia) that was found after many years of suffering is not working very well.

              patient is male. 41. unmarried. the main symptoms of the patient were/are: sleep cycle disorder (sleeps in daytime and no sleep at night) for last 20 years, hair fall, OCD (mild to moderate), severe itching and wetness in ears, tinnitus, sexual weakness, weakness + stiffness in joints and fibromyalgia (this started after severe aggravation due to calc. phos. 10M taken 5 or so years ago), history of strong sweetish smell in urine / milky urine, twitching of left upper eyelid, pus pockets in left tonsil, weakness, neurofiboma.

              sepia has been tried in 30C and 200C.

              LM potencies tend to prove.

              i am wondering if this person can be healed totally with EIZAYAGA method or any other method. can anyone help? can anyone recommend some expert person who can handle such cases?
              i am looking for some compassionate person in india or any country.
              i will be grateful for your kindness.
              fees may be paid by paypal.

              please reply at the earliest.

              regards

              dr manish agarwala

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              • #37
                Originally posted by AH View Post
                Re: eizayaga method

                .......

                Andy

                andy, i wish to contact you. are you still available?

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                • #38
                  Only Venkat expressed my opinions of this stupid subject best left to ooze back into He'll, and the sooner, the better.
                  Albert, also Hahnemannian444B
                  www.GiggleBoggleJabbleGooby.com/HaHa and www.Google+.com/AlbertHahnemannian.com and www.Tumblr.com.AlbertHahnemannian.com and
                  http://www.cityevents.tv/Cetah444

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