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  • Myth in Historical Homeopathy Observation !

    Dear Homeolist,

    I want to break a very known myth in the observation of our masters of
    homeopathy.

    I have tested PHOSPHOROUS-1000 on hundreds of cases with full blown
    Tuberculosis with miraculous improvements in their symptoms.

    They are all alive with booming natural health even after 8 years of follow-up.

    Please try ( if you dare to ) this as a protocol during the treatment
    of TB if you get one in real life....:)

    Best Regards

    Somenath

  • #2
    Dear Homeolist,

    I want to break a very known myth in the observation of our masters of
    homeopathy.

    I have tested PHOSPHOROUS-1000 on hundreds of cases with full blown
    Tuberculosis with miraculous improvements in their symptoms.

    They are all alive with booming natural health even after 8 years of follow-up.

    Please try ( if you dare to ) this as a protocol during the treatment
    of TB if you get one in real life....:)

    Best Regards

    Somenath
    Reply With Quote
    Hello Somenath,
    Phos 200 aggravating a case of haemoptysis in advanced TB is is an actual experience of a well known Indian homeopath who has treated as many cases of TB who are living and walking.

    Meanwhile I also know about dr. Sarabhai KApadia who cured some cases of Tb with Phos 1M , 10M and 50M repeated tds for months on end. This is HIS experience.

    YOu have seen 100's of cases and prescribed Phos 1M and cured them without them even getting onto AKT? In India where AKT is free treatment and mandatory?
    dr. leela
    http://www.homeopathy2health.com

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    • #3
      Re: Myth in Historical Homeopathy Observation !

      At 10:32 PM 3/29/2006, you wrote:
      >Dear Homeolist,
      >
      >I want to break a very known myth in the observation of our masters of
      >homeopathy.
      >
      >I have tested PHOSPHOROUS-1000 on hundreds of cases with full blown
      >Tuberculosis with miraculous improvements in their symptoms.
      >
      >They are all alive with booming natural health even after 8 years of
      >follow-up.
      >
      >Please try ( if you dare to ) this as a protocol during the treatment
      >of TB if you get one in real life....:)
      >
      >Best Regards
      >
      >Somenath



      Dear Colleagues,

      Phosphorus is a very commonly used in TB. Nevertheless, the warning
      about not using some deep acting antipsoric remedies like Sulphur, Silica,
      Phos, etc., depend how advanced the pathology is and how much vitality the
      patient's possess. There are several reports of the negative complications
      caused by ignoring these types of warnings in very advanced TB. They are
      found in historical and modern records. When Kent warned against using
      about Sulphur (and some other remedies) in advanced TB a homoeopath stood
      up and told him that he had cured many cases of TB with Sulphur! Kent said
      "so have I" but then went on to explained that it was best to be careful
      out with advanced cases in which such remedies may caused complications.
      This warning is based on the clinic experience of several homoeopaths not
      myths.

      I will repeat the same story again. There was a doctor I MET who
      ignored this warning in a advanced case of TB and decided to give
      Lycopodium in high potency as a constitutional remedy. The patient died
      from the aggravation. This is not the only case of strong aggravations and
      complications reported. There are also MODERN reports about Phosphorus
      causing serious complications in advanced TB. So it is not a matter or YES
      OR NO. It is a matter of knowing when it might be NO and being more careful
      with those patients.

      Yes, Sulphur, Hepar Sulph, Phosphorus, Lycopodum, Silica, Thyroidinum,
      Iodum, etc., can cure many active TB cases but there are some patients
      where using these deep acting constitutional remedies may be counter
      indicated. It is a question of degrees not this or that. In these cases it
      is better to start with more local remedies (many of them apsoric plant
      medicines) to reduce the severity of the symptoms by calming the fever,
      removing the cough, stopping hemorrhages, reducing tubercles, fill in
      cavitations, and strengthening the vitality. Then as the health of the
      patient is stabilized and their vitality increases one can give them deeper
      acting remedies. This layered approach to treatment works safely and very
      well in a number of very advanced states where, at the moment, a
      constitutional or anti-miasmic remedy might be too deep for that particular
      patient.

      IMO, calling all the collective experience gathered over the last 100
      years a "myth" to be ignored is going too far because there are many
      negative reports in traditional and modern sources. TB is far too serious a
      disease with which to play the "us against them games" between protocols
      and traditional Homoeopathy. It is more wise to realize that in advanced TB
      cases it is best to be prudent and use clinical examination to form a
      careful prognosis for finding the correct strategy for different
      individuals in different stages. One should be very careful when treating
      advanced cases with major pathology, compromised vital organs, obstructed
      organs of elimination and weaken vitality.

      As to the treatment of TB, IMO, it is better to use laboratory testing
      and clinical exam and form a careful prognosis for the individual patient
      and then decided whether to use the constitutional approach or the layer
      approached. I just hope that no individual has to eat the above words
      someday over some poor patient's prostrated body by making absolute claims
      when relative cautions may have their place. It is better to be safe than
      sorry.

      I am not sure that is wise to tell everyone on a world wide list with
      new students and persons in their early years of practice that they should
      forget what everyone else has said about TB over the last 100 years and
      give Phosphorus 1M to every person that has full blown TB. I am not sure
      that this list is intended to be diagnosing and prescribing remedies for
      health department notifiable infectious diseases for any individual let
      alone ALL persons suffering TB? I can understanding giving a few clinical
      hints to fellow practitioners but I don't think a list is appropriate for
      diagnosing and prescribing remedies for life threatening conditions.

      I am not sure if anyone has noticed but over the 11 years or so I have
      been on this list I have never suggest any medicine for any individual or
      told anyone exactly what remedy they should take. I am not going to draw
      the line between what I think are reasonable clinical hints, offering
      rubrics, and options versus diagnosing and prescribing but this post (at
      best) borders on irresponsible by its very nature.

      Sincerely, David Little




      >

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      • #4
        Kent says ‘Science come first then art follows’.

        Dear Somenath
        Kent says ‘Science come first then art follows’.
        It is really dangerous if you don’t know, what you want to do and what you are doing.
        Doses, potencies, and repetitions are the things by which you can evaluate the knowledge and education of the Homeopath beside materia medica. It is easy to mixed up the myth and the truth (of experience) if you don’t know the science, that is what you are doing, why you are doing and what do you want to do.

        Do you really know what you are doing or what do you want to do with homeopathy i.e. homeopathic medicine?

        Another thing is that –
        Most of the half-homeopath think that he is the most important and wise homeopath after Hahnemann some time he is wiser than Hahnemann. And it is really a problem for the development of homeopathy.

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        • #5
          Hahnemann said

          some very interesting things -- but how many know about them?

          We are talking about -
          one of the oldest concepts in homeopathy.

          Otherwise known as "Predisposition"

          If you go back to Von Grauvogl - in the early part of the 1800,s -

          " it depended on the constitution of the individual in question which disease followed from the one and same exposure."
          " From the same woman on the same day and the very same hour , one may get a syphilitic ulcer, one a sycotic ulcer and one escape without any infection".

          Going back even further one can quote Paracelsus -- hope you,ve heard of the man.--

          " No knowledge is perfect unless it includes an understanding of the origin -- that is the beginning -- and as all man,s diseases originate in his constitution, it is necessary that his constitution should be known if we wish to know his diseases".



          And of course Hahnemann himself said that " if the disease is treated with violent allopathic drugs , other graver more life threatening ailments are created in its place." - Para 37 Organon. I am sure that Hahnemann would concur with my abhorrance and detestation of antibiotics.

          Para 13 " It follows that disease is NOT as the allopaths believe -- an entity hidden in the interior of the organism separate from its living totality-- or an entity separate from the vital force , from the dynamic power that gives life to the organism.
          SUCH A PHANTOM CAN ONLY BE CONCIEVED BY MATERIALISTIC MINDS . iT IS THIS PHANTOM THAT HAS FOR MILLENIA PUSHED OFFICIAL MEDICINE ALONG THE DEADLY ROAD IT HAS TRAVELLED , MAKING IT AN ART OF DARKNESS INCAPABLE OF HEALING".

          Para 5
          "-- if he can determine the most probable exciting cause , usually a CHRONIC MIASM:

          So FORGET GERMS AND BACTERIA:

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          • #6
            Re: Myth in Historical Homeopathy Observation !

            In a message dated 3/31/06 6:02:28 AM, homeopathy-request (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
            writes:

            > There was a doctor I MET who
            > ignored this warning in a advanced case of TB and decided to give
            > Lycopodium in high potency as a constitutional remedy. The patient died
            > from the aggravation.
            >


            Dear David,
            Questions:
            1) How is it known that the above patient died from the aggravation and
            not something else?
            2) If the patient was dying and the rem was seen to be the cause, how
            come the practitioner didn't antidote the remedy?
            3) Would muscle testing for a big rem be advisable before giving it?

            Many thanks,
            Margaret in Boston

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            • #7
              Re: Myth in Historical

              Hello Dr sun,

              >I have tested PHOSPHOROUS-1000 on hundreds of cases with full blown

              Tuberculosis with miraculous improvements in their >symptoms.

              Phos on it's own, or with other remedies included. A remedy cannot be
              commpared if given with others, as you cannot say what hinderance the others
              have. perhaps the phos doesn't even work or works for a short period, who
              knows? You certainly couldn't know.

              Paul Booyse

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              • #8
                Myth in Historical Homeopathy Observation !

                Phosphorous given alone works wonders. I am not saying that
                Phosphosrous is the only remedy for TB but would like to just state
                that what has been mentioned in our literature about this remedy that
                it should be used only in low potency in cases of advanced TB seems
                needs a change.

                Somenath



                On 4/2/06, Paul Booyse <pb000014 (AT) pixie (DOT) co.za> wrote:
                > Hello Dr sun,
                >
                > >I have tested PHOSPHOROUS-1000 on hundreds of cases with full blown

                > Tuberculosis with miraculous improvements in their >symptoms.
                >
                > Phos on it's own, or with other remedies included. A remedy cannot be
                > commpared if given with others, as you cannot say what hinderance the others
                > have. perhaps the phos doesn't even work or works for a short period, who
                > knows? You certainly couldn't know.
                >
                > Paul Booyse
                >
                >

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                • #9
                  We believe in the experience of hundreds of writers who had made thousands of cures, and not the one, who just tries to project himself as the only 'saviour' of all the ill people on this earth.

                  Murthy

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