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    Dear all,

    interesting research results:

    J Altern Complement Med. 2006 Jun;12(5):421-7.

    Effect of low doses and high homeopathic potencies in normal and
    cancerous human lymphocytes: an in vitro isopathic study.
    Walchli C, Baumgartner S, Bastide M.
    Institute for Complementary Medicine (KIKOM), University of Bern, Bern,
    Switzerland. waelchli (AT) hiscia (DOT) ch

    OBJECTIVES: Biologic effects of high homeopathic potencies can be
    studied in cell cultures using cell lines or primary cells. We
    hypothesized that primary cells would be more apt to respond to high
    potencies than cell lines, especially cancer cell lines. We set out to
    investigate the effects of low doses and high homeopathic potencies of
    cadmium chloride, respectively, in an intoxication model with human
    primary lymphocytes compared to a human leukemia cell line (Jurkat).

    DESIGN: Cells were pretreated with either low concentrations (nM-microM)
    or high potencies (pool 15-20c) of cadmium for 120 hours, following
    which they were exposed to a toxic treatment with a range of cadmium
    concentrations (8-80 microM) during 24 hours. Cell viability was
    eventually assessed by use of the MTS/PES assay. Controls included a
    vehicle (NaCl 0.9%) for the low concentrations of cadmium or water
    15-20c for cadmium 15-20c. A total of 34 experiments were conducted, 23
    with low concentrations and 11 with high potencies of cadmium. Data were
    analyzed by analysis of variance.

    RESULTS: Pretreatment with low concentrations or high potencies of
    cadmium significantly increased cell viability in primary lymphocytes
    after toxic challenge, compared to control cells (mean effect +/-
    standard error = 19% +/- 0.9% for low concentrations respectively 8% +/-
    0.6% for high potencies of cadmium; p < 0.001 in both cases). The
    pretreatment effect of low doses was significant also in cancerous
    lymphocytes (4% +/- 0.5%; p < 0.001), albeit weaker than in normal
    lymphocytes. However, high homeopathic potencies had no effect on
    cancerous lymphocytes (1% +/- 1.9%; p = 0.45).

    CONCLUSIONS: High homeopathic potencies exhibit a biologic effect on
    cell cultures of normal primary lymphocytes. Cancerous lymphocytes
    (Jurkat), having lost the ability to respond to regulatory signals, seem
    to be fairly unresponsive to high homeopathic potencies.
    -------------------------
    Best,

    Gaby

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Gaby Rottler,
    Germany
    rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de

    http://www.curantur.de
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





  • #2
    Re: Research

    Dear Gabby,

    A very learned assessment of homeopathic remedy on cancerous
    cells in vitro; BUT not a homeopathic assessment.
    Homeopathy works in conjunction with the immune system - you
    cant have one without the other.
    To remove the body's reaction to a homeopathic remedy
    is stealing the main thrust of homeopathy. We know
    homeopathy reinforces the IM system to counter the ailment.
    To isolate the VF's interaction to the remedy lays homeopathy
    wanting - comparing 'oranges to apples.'
    Only when science evolves a method to assess individual
    reaction to homeopathic remedies, will we see a true appraisal.
    And I cant see that happening with the present method of scientific
    investigation vis-a vis homeopathy.

    Jeff Tikari

    ..
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Gaby Rottler" <rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de>
    To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>; <minutus (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
    Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:11 AM
    Subject: [H] Research


    > Dear all,
    >
    > interesting research results:
    >
    > J Altern Complement Med. 2006 Jun;12(5):421-7.
    >
    > Effect of low doses and high homeopathic potencies in normal and
    > cancerous human lymphocytes: an in vitro isopathic study.
    > Walchli C, Baumgartner S, Bastide M.
    > Institute for Complementary Medicine (KIKOM), University of Bern, Bern,
    > Switzerland. waelchli (AT) hiscia (DOT) ch
    >
    > OBJECTIVES: Biologic effects of high homeopathic potencies can be
    > studied in cell cultures using cell lines or primary cells. We
    > hypothesized that primary cells would be more apt to respond to high
    > potencies than cell lines, especially cancer cell lines. We set out to
    > investigate the effects of low doses and high homeopathic potencies of
    > cadmium chloride, respectively, in an intoxication model with human
    > primary lymphocytes compared to a human leukemia cell line (Jurkat).
    >
    > DESIGN: Cells were pretreated with either low concentrations (nM-microM)
    > or high potencies (pool 15-20c) of cadmium for 120 hours, following
    > which they were exposed to a toxic treatment with a range of cadmium
    > concentrations (8-80 microM) during 24 hours. Cell viability was
    > eventually assessed by use of the MTS/PES assay. Controls included a
    > vehicle (NaCl 0.9%) for the low concentrations of cadmium or water
    > 15-20c for cadmium 15-20c. A total of 34 experiments were conducted, 23
    > with low concentrations and 11 with high potencies of cadmium. Data were
    > analyzed by analysis of variance.
    >
    > RESULTS: Pretreatment with low concentrations or high potencies of
    > cadmium significantly increased cell viability in primary lymphocytes
    > after toxic challenge, compared to control cells (mean effect +/-
    > standard error = 19% +/- 0.9% for low concentrations respectively 8% +/-
    > 0.6% for high potencies of cadmium; p < 0.001 in both cases). The
    > pretreatment effect of low doses was significant also in cancerous
    > lymphocytes (4% +/- 0.5%; p < 0.001), albeit weaker than in normal
    > lymphocytes. However, high homeopathic potencies had no effect on
    > cancerous lymphocytes (1% +/- 1.9%; p = 0.45).
    >
    > CONCLUSIONS: High homeopathic potencies exhibit a biologic effect on
    > cell cultures of normal primary lymphocytes. Cancerous lymphocytes
    > (Jurkat), having lost the ability to respond to regulatory signals, seem
    > to be fairly unresponsive to high homeopathic potencies.
    > -------------------------
    > Best,
    >
    > Gaby
    >
    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > Gaby Rottler,
    > Germany
    > rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de
    >
    > http://www.curantur.de
    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Research

      Hi Jeff,

      On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, jtikari wrote:

      > Dear Gabby,
      >
      > A very learned assessment of homeopathic remedy on cancerous
      > cells in vitro; BUT not a homeopathic assessment.
      > Homeopathy works in conjunction with the immune system - you
      > cant have one without the other.
      > To remove the body's reaction to a homeopathic remedy is stealing the main
      > thrust of homeopathy. We know homeopathy reinforces the IM system to counter
      > the ailment.


      Luise:

      We *know* nothing of the sort. It is but one model of explanation -
      and not a very good one at that, IMO.

      The immune system is just one part of the body's or system's
      mechanisms (or whatever you may call it) that work to maintain health
      and fight illness.

      Jeff:

      > To isolate the VF's interaction to the remedy lays homeopathy wanting -
      > comparing 'oranges to apples.'
      > Only when science evolves a method to assess individual
      > reaction to homeopathic remedies, will we see a true appraisal.
      > And I cant see that happening with the present method of scientific
      > investigation vis-a vis homeopathy.
      >

      Luise:

      Research like this shows that high potencies, i.e. the "nothings" can
      have an influence on cells in vitro. That definitely is a step in the
      right direction.

      Don't forget that nowadays the basic difference beteen regular
      medicine and homeopathy is not the question of whether remedies work
      the homeopathic or the allopathic way. That was so at Hahnemann's
      times - but regular medicine has changed in the meantime.

      To-day the basic difference is that reg. med. (and other science) do
      not consider it possible that such highly diluted substances, having
      few or no molecules to do the work, can be effective. (The question of
      potentisation is not considered). *Any* way of showing that they can
      be effective in any manner whatsoever or even that they are different
      from plain water resp. water/alcohol mixture shows that reg. the
      opinion of med/science must be wrong.

      And in vitro experiments can be demonstrated again and again. It is
      just the question of individualization that has made objective proof
      impossible up to now.

      The questions having to do with individualizations have to be
      researched and solved within the homeopathic community not outside.

      Regards

      Luise


      >
      > .
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaby Rottler" <rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de>
      > To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>; <minutus (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:11 AM
      > Subject: [H] Research
      >
      >
      >> Dear all,
      >>
      >> interesting research results:
      >>
      >> J Altern Complement Med. 2006 Jun;12(5):421-7.
      >>
      >> Effect of low doses and high homeopathic potencies in normal and
      >> cancerous human lymphocytes: an in vitro isopathic study.
      >> Walchli C, Baumgartner S, Bastide M. Institute for Complementary Medicine
      >> (KIKOM), University of Bern, Bern,
      >> Switzerland. waelchli (AT) hiscia (DOT) ch
      >>
      >> OBJECTIVES: Biologic effects of high homeopathic potencies can be
      >> studied in cell cultures using cell lines or primary cells. We
      >> hypothesized that primary cells would be more apt to respond to high
      >> potencies than cell lines, especially cancer cell lines. We set out to
      >> investigate the effects of low doses and high homeopathic potencies of
      >> cadmium chloride, respectively, in an intoxication model with human
      >> primary lymphocytes compared to a human leukemia cell line (Jurkat).
      >> DESIGN: Cells were pretreated with either low concentrations (nM-microM)
      >> or high potencies (pool 15-20c) of cadmium for 120 hours, following
      >> which they were exposed to a toxic treatment with a range of cadmium
      >> concentrations (8-80 microM) during 24 hours. Cell viability was
      >> eventually assessed by use of the MTS/PES assay. Controls included a
      >> vehicle (NaCl 0.9%) for the low concentrations of cadmium or water
      >> 15-20c for cadmium 15-20c. A total of 34 experiments were conducted, 23
      >> with low concentrations and 11 with high potencies of cadmium. Data were
      >> analyzed by analysis of variance.
      >> RESULTS: Pretreatment with low concentrations or high potencies of
      >> cadmium significantly increased cell viability in primary lymphocytes
      >> after toxic challenge, compared to control cells (mean effect +/-
      >> standard error = 19% +/- 0.9% for low concentrations respectively 8% +/-
      >> 0.6% for high potencies of cadmium; p < 0.001 in both cases). The
      >> pretreatment effect of low doses was significant also in cancerous
      >> lymphocytes (4% +/- 0.5%; p < 0.001), albeit weaker than in normal
      >> lymphocytes. However, high homeopathic potencies had no effect on
      >> cancerous lymphocytes (1% +/- 1.9%; p = 0.45).
      >> CONCLUSIONS: High homeopathic potencies exhibit a biologic effect on
      >> cell cultures of normal primary lymphocytes. Cancerous lymphocytes
      >> (Jurkat), having lost the ability to respond to regulatory signals, seem
      >> to be fairly unresponsive to high homeopathic potencies.
      >> -------------------------
      >> Best,
      >>
      >> Gaby
      >>
      >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
      >> Gaby Rottler, Germany
      >> rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de
      >>
      >> http://www.curantur.de
      >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>

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      • #4
        Re: Research

        I also think that in-vitro experiments with homeopathic solutions are
        valuable experimental tool that can help we better understand how homeopathy
        works. It is intriguing if the Law of Similars is also valid with in-vitro
        isolated cells.

        A preliminary in-vitro experiment with frozen-thawed spermatozoa showed that
        addition of a drop of a Bach flower combination in the medium immediately
        after thawing, significantly increase the motility of the spermatozoa as
        compared with the control. This experiment showed that Bach flowers may have
        beneficial effect not only on organism level, but also on cells isolated
        out of the body. (non published results).

        Christo



        > Luise:
        >
        > Research like this shows that high potencies, i.e. the "nothings" can
        > have an influence on cells in vitro. That definitely is a step in the
        > right direction.
        >
        > Don't forget that nowadays the basic difference beteen regular
        > medicine and homeopathy is not the question of whether remedies work
        > the homeopathic or the allopathic way. That was so at Hahnemann's
        > times - but regular medicine has changed in the meantime.
        >
        > To-day the basic difference is that reg. med. (and other science) do
        > not consider it possible that such highly diluted substances, having
        > few or no molecules to do the work, can be effective. (The question of
        > potentisation is not considered). *Any* way of showing that they can
        > be effective in any manner whatsoever or even that they are different
        > from plain water resp. water/alcohol mixture shows that reg. the
        > opinion of med/science must be wrong.
        >
        > And in vitro experiments can be demonstrated again and again. It is
        > just the question of individualization that has made objective proof
        > impossible up to now.
        >
        > The questions having to do with individualizations have to be
        > researched and solved within the homeopathic community not outside.
        >
        > Regards
        >
        > Luise





        Comment


        • #5
          RE: Research

          Hi Jeff,

          > Dear Gabby,


          Just for the record:

          Gaby (only 1 'b' )! ;-)

          > A very learned assessment of homeopathic remedy on cancerous
          > cells in vitro; BUT not a homeopathic assessment. Homeopathy
          > works in conjunction with the immune system - you cant have
          > one without the other. To remove the body's reaction to a
          > homeopathic remedy
          > is stealing the main thrust of homeopathy. We know
          > homeopathy reinforces the IM system to counter the ailment.
          > To isolate the VF's interaction to the remedy lays homeopathy
          > wanting - comparing 'oranges to apples.'
          > Only when science evolves a method to assess individual
          > reaction to homeopathic remedies, will we see a true
          > appraisal. And I cant see that happening with the present
          > method of scientific investigation vis-a vis homeopathy.


          I think we should be careful to use sentences like

          > We know homeopathy reinforces the IM system to counter the ailment.


          Personal opinions, or even well-educated guesses should be
          differentiated from what is regarded as a *fact*, and even the latter is
          often only a 'preliminary fact' in the development of knowledge.

          To talk about homoeopathy working with the immune system is an
          assumption. To maintain you can't have one without the other is a
          personal opinion, which you are entitled to have of course, but it is
          not backed up by homoeopathic theory, text-books, writings or
          experiences.

          May be we will learn more about the mechanisms of homoeopathy during the
          next years, but it may also take decades (or more?).

          This sort of research is interesting because of several points:
          - cell lines are usully not prone to a placebo effect from the view of
          conventional medicine
          - cancer and the like is still a field where conventional medicine
          doesn't always have the catchy recommendations 'do this for that - and
          that's it'.

          So there is still a need for research, an admittance of seeing limits in
          therapy, of feeling helpless perhaps....and only where theere is a need
          to look for other options the scientific field will further investigate.

          The recent publications about Sabal-s and prostate cancer cell lines
          may also lead into this direction.

          >From the classical point of view not really a homoeopathic approach, but

          conventional medicine really often doesn't differentiate, as long as a
          homoeopathically prepared remedy is involved.
          If a remedy is in given a 6C or higher for many people (scientists
          included), that's homoeopathy: they have no idea what is isopathic
          approach, what is 'recipe medicine', what differentiate Schüssler's cell
          salts (though potentized remedies they are) from homoeopathy, and why
          complex preparations aren't homoeopathic either, even if it's written on
          the label.

          Time and efforts are needed first to understand the principle.

          Best,

          Gaby

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          Gaby Rottler,
          Germany
          rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de

          http://www.curantur.de
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~






          Comment


          • #6
            Cells lose their magnetism and resonance when become cancerous.

            Quoting Gaby's posting:

            < CONCLUSIONS:
            High homeopathic potencies exhibit a biologic
            effect on cell cultures of normal primary
            lymphocytes,Cancerous lymphocytes(Jurkat), having lost the
            ability to respond to regulatory signals, seem to be fairly
            unresponsive to high homeopathic potencies.>

            These experimental normal primary lymphocytes
            demonstrate biological responses to high homeopathic
            potencies because they are able to response to vibratory
            signatures and their concomitant harmonics ,as cellular
            signals by electromagnetic resonance . Whereas, the
            cancerous lymphocytes have lost their biomagnetism ;
            hence,these non-magnetic cancerous cells cannot resonate to
            the electromagnetic regulatory signals of the high
            homeopathic potencies. I will try to trace the author of
            this information which I gleaned through casual reading.

            With regards
            Lew

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Research

              Gaby
              This would mean all the case results from all cancer cases using high ch and constant repetition are null and void. Sorry but the success's are too many and varied, and highly documented. We certainly do need to understand a lot more befor taking this at face value, to me it is too one sided, and does not address the whole of the science of homoeopathy. Below the 12ch one still has some amount of physical activity in the properties, have they simply proven a "chemical" change and the dynamics of the higher potency were not tested at all? hmmm
              merrilee

              Gaby Rottler <rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de> wrote:
              Dear all,

              interesting research results:

              J Altern Complement Med. 2006 Jun;12(5):421-7.

              Effect of low doses and high homeopathic potencies in normal and
              cancerous human lymphocytes: an in vitro isopathic study.
              Walchli C, Baumgartner S, Bastide M.
              Institute for Complementary Medicine (KIKOM), University of Bern, Bern,
              Switzerland. waelchli (AT) hiscia (DOT) ch

              OBJECTIVES: Biologic effects of high homeopathic potencies can be
              studied in cell cultures using cell lines or primary cells. We
              hypothesized that primary cells would be more apt to respond to high
              potencies than cell lines, especially cancer cell lines. We set out to
              investigate the effects of low doses and high homeopathic potencies of
              cadmium chloride, respectively, in an intoxication model with human
              primary lymphocytes compared to a human leukemia cell line (Jurkat).

              DESIGN: Cells were pretreated with either low concentrations (nM-microM)
              or high potencies (pool 15-20c) of cadmium for 120 hours, following
              which they were exposed to a toxic treatment with a range of cadmium
              concentrations (8-80 microM) during 24 hours. Cell viability was
              eventually assessed by use of the MTS/PES assay. Controls included a
              vehicle (NaCl 0.9%) for the low concentrations of cadmium or water
              15-20c for cadmium 15-20c. A total of 34 experiments were conducted, 23
              with low concentrations and 11 with high potencies of cadmium. Data were
              analyzed by analysis of variance.

              RESULTS: Pretreatment with low concentrations or high potencies of
              cadmium significantly increased cell viability in primary lymphocytes
              after toxic challenge, compared to control cells (mean effect +/-
              standard error = 19% +/- 0.9% for low concentrations respectively 8% +/-
              0.6% for high potencies of cadmium; p < 0.001 in both cases). The
              pretreatment effect of low doses was significant also in cancerous
              lymphocytes (4% +/- 0.5%; p < 0.001), albeit weaker than in normal
              lymphocytes. However, high homeopathic potencies had no effect on
              cancerous lymphocytes (1% +/- 1.9%; p = 0.45).

              CONCLUSIONS: High homeopathic potencies exhibit a biologic effect on
              cell cultures of normal primary lymphocytes. Cancerous lymphocytes
              (Jurkat), having lost the ability to respond to regulatory signals, seem
              to be fairly unresponsive to high homeopathic potencies.
              -------------------------
              Best,

              Gaby

              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              Gaby Rottler,
              Germany
              rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de

              http://www.curantur.de
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




              Comment


              • #8
                re: research

                Have there been more studies like this one?

                W





                Op Di, 12 december, 2006 6:41 am schreef Gaby Rottler:
                - Dear all,
                -
                - interesting research results:
                -
                - J Altern Complement Med. 2006 Jun;12(5):421-7.
                -
                - Effect of low doses and high homeopathic potencies in normal and
                - cancerous human lymphocytes: an in vitro isopathic study.
                - Walchli C, Baumgartner S, Bastide M.
                - Institute for Complementary Medicine (KIKOM), University of Bern, Bern,
                - Switzerland. waelchli (AT) hiscia (DOT) ch
                -
                - OBJECTIVES: Biologic effects of high homeopathic potencies can be
                - studied in cell cultures using cell lines or primary cells. We
                - hypothesized that primary cells would be more apt to respond to high
                - potencies than cell lines, especially cancer cell lines. We set out to
                - investigate the effects of low doses and high homeopathic potencies of
                - cadmium chloride, respectively, in an intoxication model with human
                - primary lymphocytes compared to a human leukemia cell line (Jurkat).
                -
                - DESIGN: Cells were pretreated with either low concentrations (nM-microM)
                - or high potencies (pool 15-20c) of cadmium for 120 hours, following
                - which they were exposed to a toxic treatment with a range of cadmium
                - concentrations (8-80 microM) during 24 hours. Cell viability was
                - eventually assessed by use of the MTS/PES assay. Controls included a
                - vehicle (NaCl 0.9%) for the low concentrations of cadmium or water
                - 15-20c for cadmium 15-20c. A total of 34 experiments were conducted, 23
                - with low concentrations and 11 with high potencies of cadmium. Data were
                - analyzed by analysis of variance.
                -
                - RESULTS: Pretreatment with low concentrations or high potencies of
                - cadmium significantly increased cell viability in primary lymphocytes
                - after toxic challenge, compared to control cells (mean effect +/-
                - standard error = 19% +/- 0.9% for low concentrations respectively 8% +/-
                - 0.6% for high potencies of cadmium; p < 0.001 in both cases). The
                - pretreatment effect of low doses was significant also in cancerous
                - lymphocytes (4% +/- 0.5%; p < 0.001), albeit weaker than in normal
                - lymphocytes. However, high homeopathic potencies had no effect on
                - cancerous lymphocytes (1% +/- 1.9%; p = 0.45).
                -
                - CONCLUSIONS: High homeopathic potencies exhibit a biologic effect on
                - cell cultures of normal primary lymphocytes. Cancerous lymphocytes
                - (Jurkat), having lost the ability to respond to regulatory signals, seem
                - to be fairly unresponsive to high homeopathic potencies.
                - -------------------------
                - Best,
                -
                - Gaby
                -
                - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                - Gaby Rottler,
                - Germany
                - rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de
                -
                - http://www.curantur.de
                - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                -
                -
                -
                -
                -

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: re: research

                  > Have there been more studies like this one?

                  Those of you interested in fundamental research involving in vitro & vivo
                  models might find useful visiting GIRI website - an International Research
                  Group on Very Low Dose and High Dilution Effects at:
                  http://www.entretiens-internationaux.mc/giri.htm

                  Here is one quote from the site concerning similia-principle at the cellular
                  level:

                  "Do Studies on the Similia-principle at the Cellular Level Have any
                  Significance?

                  It has been argued that the similia-principle has been formulated for the
                  organismal level and therefore can not be verified or falsified by research
                  on the cellular level alone.
                  There is, of course, a clear difference between research on the
                  similia-principle as described here and the clinical practice. The first
                  difference is the systemic level or level of organization which is studied
                  or treated (cells versus organisms). Secondly, in our experiments cells are
                  brought into a pathological condition, whereas patients who come to a doctor
                  already are in this condition. Thirdly, cells are grown in cultures and
                  treated as a group. Their behaviour and response with respect to the process
                  of self-recovery is evaluated as the mean of the total population. There is
                  of course a variability in self-recovery. Thus, not only cells showing a
                  fast and spontaneous recovery, but also cells showing a slow and hampered
                  self-recovery are evaluated. In contrast to research with patients, a single
                  case approach or a time-series design for studies on the behaviour of
                  individual cells is not possible or is extremely complex.
                  However, we expect the assumption of the similia-principle as
                  being a general biological phenomenon to gain weight by the study at the
                  cellular level of regulatory processes underlying this principle. The
                  demonstration of the stimulation of self-recovery by compounds according to
                  the similia-principle will substantiate the fundamental basis of homeopathy
                  and will improve the acceptance of this basic point of view in bio-medicine.
                  "

                  Regards


                  Comment


                  • #10
                    RE: re: research

                    Hi Wiet,

                    > Have there been more studies like this one?


                    I posted some studies in the past.

                    I've now included the recent studies on my WebSite and will also do so
                    in the future, so just check it from time to time.

                    Best,

                    Gaby

                    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                    Gaby Rottler,
                    Germany
                    rottler (AT) curantur (DOT) de

                    http://www.curantur.de
                    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: re: research

                      There are many experiments confirming that similia-principle is
                      a general biological phenomenon which applies from organismal to cellular
                      level, and to me, there is no doubt about that. What I' m wondering,
                      however, is if the similia-principle applies only to the living organisms or
                      is it an universal phenomenon applicable to nonliving things, as well ???
                      Any suggestions?

                      Reagards,
                      Christo

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