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  • Originally posted by MRC_Hans View Post
    No, and no.

    KV, stop speculating about things you don't understand.

    Hans
    Are synapses not somewhat molecular links?
    Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
    Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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    • Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
      Yes, but then it become a duty of all in their & society interest to opt for those which have least adversities--CAMs or CMs. Not so?
      No, we want to opt for those that give the best benefit. In a combination of efficacy, price and safety.

      Let me try to explain it in a simple way: Think of a car. A great means of transportation! But it pollutes the environment, and it can be dangerous. Thousands of people are killed by cars every year.

      So lets make an alternative car; we start by removing the engine, and make it a horse carraige. Now the pollution is gone. No, wait! Horses pollute too, and they are actually rather dangerous. So away goes the horse. But a car can run down the street, even without a horse, and run over somebody! So we take the wheels away, too. NOW we have a nice, safe, non-polluting CAM car, with no adversities at all!

      Only, it won't take you very far..........

      Hans
      You have a right to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

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      • Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
        Are synapses not somewhat molecular links?
        No, you cant say that. Of course, synapses consist of molecules (everything does), but that is not what we are talking about. Also, what has this to do with memory in homeopathic remedies?

        Hans
        You have a right to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

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        • Originally posted by MRC_Hans View Post
          No, we want to opt for those that give the best benefit. In a combination of efficacy, price and safety.

          Let me try to explain it in a simple way: Think of a car. A great means of transportation! But it pollutes the environment, and it can be dangerous. Thousands of people are killed by cars every year.

          So lets make an alternative car; we start by removing the engine, and make it a horse carraige. Now the pollution is gone. No, wait! Horses pollute too, and they are actually rather dangerous. So away goes the horse. But a car can run down the street, even without a horse, and run over somebody! So we take the wheels away, too. NOW we have a nice, safe, non-polluting CAM car, with no adversities at all!

          Only, it won't take you very far..........

          Hans
          Does it mean that you make luxuaries or conviniencies at the cost of people & health?
          Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
          Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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          • Originally posted by MRC_Hans View Post
            No, you cant say that. Of course, synapses consist of molecules (everything does), but that is not what we are talking about. Also, what has this to do with memory in homeopathic remedies?

            Hans
            Are there continious interactions between bounded atoms within molecules?
            Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
            Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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            • Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
              Does it mean that you make luxuaries or conviniencies at the cost of people & health?
              Some do, but that was not my example. Cars are not just luxuries.

              Hans
              You have a right to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

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              • Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
                Are there continious interactions between bounded atoms within molecules?
                Hardly in the way you think of interactions. If you nail a board to the floor, to you think there are continuous interactions between the board, the nail, and the floor?

                Hans
                You have a right to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

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                • Originally posted by MRC_Hans View Post
                  Hardly in the way you think of interactions. If you nail a board to the floor, to you think there are continuous interactions between the board, the nail, and the floor?

                  Hans
                  But if we nail a head, we can say yes.
                  Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
                  Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

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                  • Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
                    But if we nail a head, we can say yes.
                    Well, if you have nails in your head, it explains a lot.........

                    Hans
                    You have a right to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

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                    • Originally posted by Hahnemannian444 View Post
                      Nancy,

                      Dear, what's your opinion of this guy? I've recently decided or discerned what I just posted. It took me a long time to decide that, too. What's your take?

                      He doesn't seem to listen to us, but it also seems fair to say that he effectively hides any personal views in favor of what established science says despite the fact that it requires that they say that they know everything worth knowing and yet know that's not true.

                      Dear, more important to me, do you also like him? I'm trying to think of who he reminds me of but draw a complete blank. Guernsey is the closest, but something is off with that suspicion I'd be hard-pressed to explain because -- as far as I know -- we know so little of how he came to homeopathy. If not him, it's someone like him, though. Who does this guy remind you of?

                      I suspect it's no one in the history of homeopathy and thus more likely in spagyric history because Minds like his have walked through the development and rediscovery of the natural sciences and repeatedly reinforced their views with an etheric pattern for a new lifetime's early years. They thus well know what they know but can't seem to accept that what they don't know is pivotal. This guy just skirts all of our really powerful questions that collapse all of their arguments. He's repeatedly done it, too.

                      Who does this guy remind you of?
                      Hello Hahnemannian444

                      Fist of all my apologies for replying late.

                      I know this guy Mr. Hans for a long time. We have discussed homeopathy medicine on NCH ( nch.ipbfree.com ) a lot. Now this site is unavailable.

                      He once swear that he won't talk to me because I asked him uncomfortable questions on homeopathy, at that site. But he could not keep his words. And came back with bizzare answers to my questions. He does not go personal, unlike most of the skeptics except he gets deeply offended by homeopaths. I gave him credit to keep threads on homeopathy always on go with his humorous views on homeopathy. He is more concerned with homeopathy pharmacy.
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                      • Originally posted by Hahnemannian444 View Post
                        Nancy,

                        Dear, I want you to know that I've watched your postings for a long time and only failed to respond to them because they were good enough to not need it, and we're of course overwhelmed with constant corrections of allopathic thought, so any disagreements between us naturally melt because we both think homeopathically in a wilderness of billions who don't. That's a lot, isn't it? It never stops, either, and we have no choice but to accept it and deal with it.

                        Thus, not meaning it said arrogantly, you've done pretty well doing that no-so-easy thing.

                        More specifically, I find this good:



                        Quite true.


                        Right, well said, dear. So few know this, don't they?

                        Tell them how tragic it is, too. Also, ask them why they constantly demand we be witnesses to these horrible injustices. Where is the Golden Rule in that?

                        If I bash in your your skull and you die, who is not going to call that murder? How do allopaths eternally get away with this? Tell them what this does to us. I'm sure you know, and I'm so sorry for you even though it's part of the cross we bear to cure at this time of history. Tell them, dear.

                        Nobody has any idea about this. They all think that these people on the other side of medicine are out colleagues. OMG, that is so untrue! Tell them, dear.

                        If you learn about medicine sufficient to cure, you're a homeopath, one of "God's priests" in the noble words of Hahnemann. If you don't, you're an allopath or a mindless advocate of it. What's wrong with this picture? Tell them, dear.

                        People, watch an allopathic death. Endlessly worse, watch them kill your parents and dare tell us it's right: "The doctors did everything they could." My God, I dare you all to try!



                        True.

                        God bless us all!
                        Hello Hahnemannian444

                        Thanks for your well-take on my posts about homeopathy. I must say you are a keen observer of things as shown in your posts. I must congratulate you for your insights.All your points have been well-taken and have been included in my database. Thank you verymuch
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                        • Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
                          Memory is memory.

                          I think science of our memoy couldn't yet be fully understood.

                          How memory can be stored in synapses?
                          Human memory, a collection of experiences, do reside in synpases connecting biological neurons of our nervous system.
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                          • Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
                            To add:

                            Synapse is defined as under:-

                            "In the nervous system, a synapse is a structure that permits a neuron to pass an electrical or chemical signal to another cell."
                            Synapse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                            It just indicate it is a passing medium. Where is memory in it?
                            A neuron passes a signal only when cummulative action potential increases beyond the threshold.

                            The network of neurons is a complex structure like that of a tree structure, having large number of branches.

                            Memory is expressed in terms of excitory and inhibitory signals.
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                            • Originally posted by kayveeh View Post
                              When science of human memory couldn't yet be known, how can you say that;Synapses are created, and their position and route form part of our memory?
                              We have a massive network of neurons connected by synapses and dendrites
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                              • Originally posted by Keiper View Post
                                First off, actual pharmaceutical science has only been going on for a century or so, and regulation of pharmaceuticals is also a rather recent thing. So comparing current medicines to ones from a hundred years ago isnít really a valid comparison. Most of the older medicines that arenít around any more werenít scientific at all.
                                Also, there is a difference between a drug brand and a drug type. Many of the drugs that have disappeared off the shelves are just a certain brand of a certain drug disappearing, not the drug itself. Itís like one brand of raisin bran cereal disappearing from the shelf: while that brand of it canít be found any more, there is still plenty of raisin bran in different brands. Most of the drugs that were approved in the last half century or so are actually still available. Theyíve just changed brand names or been replaced by newer, better drugs.
                                Which brings about another point: if a drug is replaced by another, it doesnít mean that the previous one was ďineffective or dangerousĒ. It often just means that the newer one is even better. Why keep mass manufacturing medicine A when medicine B does all the same things but with only half the dosage? The pharmaceutical industry is about constantly finding even more efficient, effective, and cheaper to make drugs. Your complaint is like saying that a car made in 1998 canít actually work because there are different cars made today.
                                How many allopathic drugs of yesterday can be found on the chemistsí shelves today? They all had their day, and their alluring names have faded into oblivion (because they are declared ineffective or dangerous), only to be replaced by newer drugs. Now you can judge yourself how scientific allopathy is?
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