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    Effects from Natural and unnatural substances to our body are two type of considerations which are commonly thought. Natural means here: those substances to which, we have inherent sense of right and wrong not just naturally produced substances or in natural form.

    Since our evolution till today, our body have evolved or become habitual to many substances to which it can properly recognize, easily and suitably process. So, such substances can be treated as natural to our body even though, they are in natural form or not. So "old is gold" is thought.

    Many modern food, modern environment in big cities and conventional modern medicines are newly developed which can be in some unnatural
    form to us-- not common and persistent to our body and to which we are
    not yet evolved or become habitual.

    Accordingly, those substances can cause a stranger, antigenic or foreign body type effect to our body which can be an unnatural, confused, shocking, adverse or toxic. Now my questions are as under:-

    1. Will such effect from above mentioned newly developed modern and unnatural substances be a unnatural, confused, shocking, adverse or toxic type effect to our body system or not?

    2. If yes, Will our body not resist and become resistant to these unnatural modern substances alike bacteria become resistant to antibiotics?

    3. If yes, can't these unnatural modern substance--conventional medicines will become ineffective on us when we will become resistant to these?

    4. How much time our body may usually take to become resistant, habitual or evolved to any new substance?

    5.Can conventional medicines be treated as unnatural in higher concentration WHEREAS homeopathic potentised remedies as unnatural in lower/least concentration?

    Best wishes.
    Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
    Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera

  • #2
    This post takes for granted

    the idea that the human body is the final peak of evolution.

    In my opinion the human body is simply the current habitation of the "Life Force" and it may be that at some time the race will take measures that obliterate human life.

    This does NOT mean that the "Life Force" will be obliterated.

    Practical uses of the concept of vitality.


    In the 14th century the Church had developed such a stranglehold on the intellectual and cultural life of Europe that any ideas of a progressive nature were stifled. As subversive hybrids such as alchemy began to crack the monolithic facade of the church, the renaissance of the l5OO's broke with the paternalistic authoritarian attitude of religion . [2] In order to be and feel completely independent the sciences became increasingly materialistic. So that where the alchemist had been seeking to transmute the leaden soul into the golden spirit using various material substances he gradually came to the point where he tried literally to transmute lead into gold, and so gave rise to the science of chemistry.
    At roughly the same time Vesalius was cutting up cadavers and creating the basis of the
    science of anatomy, which Pare used to advance the science of surgery, also Frascatorio was working on the science of epidemiology.[10] All of this wave of innovators felt that to acknowledge the role of a spirit or a vital force would throw them back into the arms of a restrictive authoritarian church. So they denied the existence of any impalpable, unquantifiable force such as the vitality. In time the pendulum has swung to the other extreme so that today atomic physicists acknowledge the erratic and unscientific behaviour of particles which interchange with energy forms, by giving them such names as Bosons and Quarks, which are described as having 'Flavours' such as 'Charmed', 'Strange', 'Top' and 'Bottom'. 26 A sure sign that at the frontiers of science there is a need for modification and renovation. The fact that, as Albert Einstein clearly saw, both the observer and the fact of observation influence events shows that an unscientific principle is at work.
    The unscientific can be put to work by the pragmatist. For example, in the United States of America telephone company employees were reported to be tested for dowsing ability. Those who showed talent were issued with dowsing rods, and used to pinpoint lost pipes and cables. Dowsing can be employed at great distances. I have spoken to a dowser who uses his talents on maps. He is in the U.K. and he dowses on a map of Australia to direct his client in that country, to where he should drill for water. His level of success makes his services in demand world wide.
    An early pioneer, Abbe Mermet dowsed over maps of Africa for water and minerals while seated at his desk in France. [24] These phenomena have been under investigation since the 1940s when Dr J. Rhine of Duke University set up his data gathering operation in the field of extra sensory perception (ESP). [29] The legitimate field of such investigation is into such phenomena as poltergeists', now generally acknowledged to be associated with pubescent girls. In this phenomenon tables are lifted and transported, doors slam, and china flies across the room. These events are called telekinesis, meaning that objects are transported simply by the force of conscious, or unconscious, will. There is also the ability to foretell events, known as precognition, which is tested by forecasting the order of cards with abstract symbols printed on them. It may be noteworthy that one of the indications for Medorrhinum, in the Materia Medica of Nosodes is the correct prediction of personal events. Dr. H. Burr of Yale has detected the body at a distance of several feet using the personal lectro magnetic fielder Huxley had a concept that all life from mollusc to man was 'inter-related, interdependent and inter-responsive'.[15]
    In 1974 Pathoff and Targ published in Nature a paper on 'Information transmission under conditions of sensory shielding'. [28] In this, one subject was set to guess when a random strobe light was flashed in the eye of a distant isolated subject. The guesses were consistent with mathematical chance, but an EEG record of the alpha waves of the guesser gave an accurate record of the strobe light activity. An instance of information being available in the body but not to the conscious mind.

    Dr W. G. Walter in 1969 demonstrated that a TV set could be operated on an intentional basis by amplified brain waves. [l2] A. Dubrov in Biogravitation and Psychotronics points to mitosis and shows that cell division produces HF waves and other forms of energy incompatible with any known force except gravitation. All apparently due to the activity of the genetic material. [22] T. C. Lethbridge states that there are now many thinkers who hold that the brain is only a mechanism for censoring sensation.
    This idea is certainly gaining strength at the expense of those who think the brain and the mind are one and the same thing. [l l] I do not intend to go into these matters in depth, but even a little research will unearth endless cases of non scientific data being ignored because it does not fit in
    with the preconceived framework of scientific theory. Here I should like to distance my conception of the 'vitality' or 'life force' from that of scientists who have found some of the materialistic concepts of science unsatisfactory and, going from one extreme to another have embraced mysticism in the form of religion. The bleak failure of reason represented by the attitude that if science fails us we should throw ourselves into the arms of one god or another seems to me a sign of immaturity. The life force is not equatable with the religious concept of a soul. The moral judgment implicit in a soul, with overtones of right and wrong has no place in the logical and reasonable behavior of the vitality or life force. So let us separate once and for all the soul and the life force. Let us define the essential difference by saying that if the various gods to whom the soul is dedicated were to die and be laid to rest with the rites appropriate to their respective religions, the life force would proceed calmly about its business without being affected in any way. One can think of numerous parallels to this tale in many fields of human activity.

    It is from allopathy, and only from allopathy, that the vitality or life force has been eliminated. This has been done in the name of science which banishes the unquantifiable- able so that all its equations may work out. Anything that does not fit the framework is rejected as unscientific. This is a formula for narrow blinkered thinking, and one that takes up the religious authoritarian tradition that medicine was at great pains to cast off 500 years ago. I propose to examine, briefly, the therapies outside of allopathy to see if we can agree that they are to a greater or lesser extent based in the vitality or life force.


    Acupuncture originated at the time of the Yellow Emperor, about 2700 B.C. Yellow is the color of the middle way. About 500 B.C. the principles were written down in the I ching and at that time bronze needles were used. It defines chi as the vital life force in man, being derived from two sources, heredity and food and air. It proposes the opposing, but complementary forces Yin (water) which sinks, and Yang (fire) which rises. It is holistic in its idea of an indivisible combination of mind, body and spirit. Its philosophy anticipates the early detection of potential illness and treats it before it causes any great damage. Its recognition of many types of pulse as a diagnostic technique
    displays great subtlety.
    After treatment its function is to support continued good health. [27] Current western orientated uses that do not comply with the original unhurried concept, include the cure of symptoms in an allopathic fashion while leaving the cause of disease to create further inner disruption. There is also the control of pain as an anaesthesia for operations. Operations which often represent the rapid relief of chronic conditions, but are detrimental to the long term health of the patient, as they remove a natural vent for internal hereditary ills.

    Anthroposophical medicine

    This follows concepts of etheric and astral forces, being dearly an energy-based medicine. It is close to homeopathy while lacking its conceptual depths. It uses homeopathic and herbal remedies on the practical level and its metabolic concept of catabolism (breaking down) and anabolism (building up) may be compared to the concepts of Yin and Yang. [3]

    Aromatherapy [32]

    The massage of oils into the skin presents a multiple therapy in that homeopathic doses are administered through the skin and the respiratory organs while there is a joining of the two life force fields as the massage takes place. Thus the aromatherapist may be said to have much in common with both the homeopath and the acupuncturist who by the insertion and manipulation of the needles also joins the two life force fields. This of course is my reason for being critical of the use of electro- stimulation of the needles in acupuncture. It is a western orientated innovation In life, and particularly in medicine, good intentions are often fatal. I should like to quote here a fragment of the Chuang Tzu. [35] The emperor of the South Sea was called Shu and the emperor of the North Sea was called Hu,
    while the emperor of the central region was called Ham Tun. Shu and Hu came together from time to time in the territory of Ham Tun, and Ham Tun treated them very kindly. Shu and Hu debated how they should repay this generosity. 'All men' they said, 'have seven openings so they can see, hear, eat and breathe; but Ham Tun has no openings at all. Let us try boring him some'. Every day they bored a new hole and on the seventh day Ham Tun died.

    designed to placate science and thus undermines the true nature of the therapy. It may
    also be noteworthy that a prime indication for the homeopathic remedy Phosphorous is the desire to be rubbed. [33]

    Ayurveda medicine

    This goes back to the same period as chinese acupuncture. Its origins are lost in the mists of time, before 2000 B.C. But its framework was laid down in the two sets of writing, the Susruta Samhita (500 B.C.) and the Chakra Samhita (200 B.C.). This branch of medicine was aware of bacterial action and established hygienic procedures 2000 years before the microscope made bacteria visible. It has a successful record of treating arthritis going back over 1000 years. It aim is to balance internal and external energies. It has twin principles one called Rajas, which is active and comparable to the chinese Yang, and the other called Tamas which is passive and comparable to the chinese Yin. X 6 In its dietary rules it is related to Naturopathy, and the conifer resin used, Gogul, is probably similar to Thuja used in the western homeopathic repertory as an anti sycotic.


    The origins of biomagnetics lie in the 18th century. It was developed at the same time as mesmerism or hypnosis. [20] I have not given the matter any deep study, but I believe that treatment is related to magnetic affects on the energy meridians of acupuncture. In any event is must be accepted as an energy medicine in the same way that Vithoulkas [34] describes homeopathy as an energy medicine. It manipulates the internal energy field to improve general health, and raise the vitality. It will be of interest to homeopaths that the remedy phosphorous has among its indicators the desire to be magnetised.

    Healing [ laying on of hands] This is defined by Fulder [8] as ' . . . the transmission of some form of energy from the healer to the patient'. In this therapy the internal energy of the healer acts directly on the patient's life force or vitality. Fulder also points to Kirlian photography showing flares of energy from the hands of the healer together with changes in the aura of the patients body. Consideration must be granted to experiments with healers demonstrating that they have had effects upon enzymes comparable with a strong magnetic field, both being compared to the random effect of an untreated control. [30] This shows a relationship to the use of biomagnetics and the work in low power electrical- biological fields now in hand by Dr J. Kenyon using the vegatester and similar detectors. [20] Herbalism According to prominent herbalist S. Mills, herbalism works on the assumption that '. . . there is a vitality in the human frame and this vitality can be seen as a purposeful self correcting resistant force transcending the abrasions of life. . . [8] A clearer statement of the evolving and ancient self repairing facility of the human body would be hard to find. It is noteworthy that the homeopath R. T. Cooper originated the arborivital method of drawing on the energy of sunlight in preparing the
    tinctures he used to cure many apparently hopeless cancers, as detailed in his book Cancer and Cancer Symptoms. [7]
    Homeopathy This originated in the extensive use of poisons by the Greeks. Hemlock was used as a merciful and civilized form of execution. The homeopathic use of hemlock, or Conium maculatum, is in cases of ascending paralysis, starting at the feet and working upwards. Obviously the use of the raw poison allows the condemned man to lie down and thus die quickly and more mercifully. In the course of this widespread use of poisons it was noticed that very small doses, possibly used to cause a short indisposition, caused an abrupt betterment of health. This principle was largely lost sight of during the Dark Ages and was only recorded as being in use again when T. von Hohenheim (or Paracelsus) disinterred it in the 15th century. However it was S. Hahnemann [3] in the late 18th
    century who put the whole thing on a systematic and logical basis with the principle that 'like cures like'.
    Briefly, this means that if raw sulphur is regularly administered to a person they will in time display the signs of eczema. The homeopathic derivative of sulphur is therefore used to treat eczema. Hahnemann says in paragraph 16 of his 'Organon'... 'The physician can remove these pathological untunements or diseases by acting on the spiritlike vital forces with medicines having an equally spiritlike dynamic effect that are perceived by the nervous sensitivity that is everywhere present in the organism.'
    Hahnemann also states in his nature of Chronic Diseases that the physician 'has not only to combat the disease before his eyes, and must not treat it as if it were a well defined disease to be permanently destroyed with homeopathic remedies, but has always to encounter some separate
    fragment of a deep-seated original disease. He must not hope to permanently heal the separate manifestations of this kind. The original malady sought for must also be of the miasmatic chronic nature. It can never be removed by the strength of a robust constitution, it can never be overcome by the most wholesome diet and order of life, nor will it die out by itself'. These words of Hahnemann show a clear vision of the homeopathic concept of a vital force and the constitutional and hereditary nature of the miasmatic power of chronic disease. This form of disease is normally kept in check and asymptomatic by the vital force.
    Hypnosis Experiments in the New York Academy of Science demonstrated that in pain relief, hypnosis can be as effective as morphine. [31] This can only be due to the vitality of the hypnotist affecting the vitality of the subject, as nothing material passes between them. Whilst this may be
    compared to the laying on of hands its uses are at present crude when compared to the subtle manipulation and distinctions of acupuncture or homeopathy. In the 18th century Mesmer introduced hypnosis in France, but its therapeutic use was first applied by De Puysagur in 1780. There can be no doubt of its effectiveness or of its firm footing in the vitalist sphere.

    Massage, reflexology and shaitzu These are all therapies that involve the touch and laying on of hands. There is in all these techniques a strong element of the life force of the therapist affecting the life force of the patient in a corrective and therapeutic manner. The reflexologists Kaye and Marchant [8] state that it is also 'able to stimulate the healing forces present in the body and thus increase the body's ability to heal itself'. Naturopathy This is as stated in the manifesto of the British Osteopathic and Naturopathic Association 'A system of treating human ailments which recognises that healing depends on the vital curative force within the human organism'. Iridology This is a diagnostic technique of naturopaths and others, which illustrates the essential wholeness of the body. It was originated by the German, Von Psczey, who noted that a pet owls broken leg gave rise to a blemish in its iris, one that changed as the leg healed.
    The American naturopath doctor. H. Lindlahr [21] wrote 'Health is the normal and harmonious vibration of the elements and forces comprising the human entity . . . disease is the result of . . . an inharmonious vibration of those same elements and forces'. Psychotherapy This is a therapy of the psyche and was frowned on by the allopathic establishment for many years after its discovery and
    mapping out by Freud, Adler and Jung. It is NOW accepted on a grudging basis as it has played down its non-scientific nature, and emphasized the logical scientific aspects. This has of course crippled it. It is assumed that as we have not yet located the psyche or ego it is at present concealed in some unexplored pocket of cells, that it will eventually be located and geographically plotted somewhere in the human brain.
    At this point discussion ceases and speculation is discouraged. Instead elaborate abstract formulae are produced and investigation is all down the path of how drugs can affect behavior and modify psychosis. If one considers that hereditary traits are transmitted down the generations by the genetic material it seems obvious that health and vitality are ultimately traceable to the genes. It is a difficult but not very large step from there to regard the conscious mind with its intelligence as the
    tip of an iceberg. In other words it also is the creation of the genes, developed as an autopilot, a convenient device that allows a large loosely federated group of cells and organs to navigate on an independent basis.
    A philosophical question that may clarify the above, is to query what can be dispensed with, and the answer is clear. The deathless genetic material can evolve into some other form, can mutate but survive. On the other hand man cannot dispense with the genetic material. It then follows that humanity is an experimental mode of the genetic material and will, if considered to be a failure, be abandoned in the same way that the dinosaurs became extinct. Bearing the above in mind, it is not impossible to see the psychological model of a conscious mind as an Ego, with a subconscious layer
    more or less equal to Freud's Id.
    Underlying that, and common to all genetic materiaL is the collective unconscious of Jung. [17] If this model is accepted it would account for many of the phenomenon currently classed as ESP or PSI forces. It could certainly throw a new light on holism; telepathy and precognition would be shown to operate through the individual subconscious, but to draw on, and be connected across, infinite distance through the collective unconscious via the genetic material. This would account for the fact that in scientific research it is impossible to keep a secret. Spying becomes an infantile activity operating outside reality. This is because any new discovery originates in the collective unconscious and is available to any genetic listening post that is tuned in. This model would also account, without any necessity for physical contact, for the similarity between the Egyptian, Maya and Inca civilizations, on almost opposite sides of the globe, in separate continents.
    On the principle of Occams Razor, this model accounts for more phenomena than any other model I have encountered Including such things as Kirlian photography. Anyone who considers that mankind has reached a peak not previously attained should ponder the 63rd hexagram of the 1. Ching [.37] Radiaesthetic healing T. C. Lethbridge [11] ' states that this appears to work through the repulsion of some kind of force from the channel in which it had been accustomed to flow. . . One can pull it out between one's fingers and see it faintly, like a spark between the two terminals of an arc
    lamp. I call it the life force. It is a force which makes all nature work. It is not nature, but it is the life force of all nature.


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      to continue


      1. The direction of disease is in and up. The direction of cure is down and out.

      2. By tracing the path of disease from exterior to interior; from below upwards, the latent genetic class is revealed.

      3. The vitality is the immunological system plus 'x', and anything that weakens the vitality tends to destroy the
      immunological system.

      4. The body has a limited response to any infection. When that limit is reached no further damage will be done and
      the invader will defend the body against fresh invasion.

      5. If some direct intervention is made by drugs then the body regains its vulnerability and reinfection will
      progressively damage the immunological system.

      6. If the vitality is put into working order it will then put its own house (i.e. the body) in order, eliminating unwanted
      growths and all elements of disease.

      7. A healthy vitality will easily control one or possibly two classes of hereditary ills. If attacked by a third class; or
      subject to trauma then the outermost or surface presentation will be the class that is most dangerous to the body
      and its processes. Suppression or driving inwards of these symptoms may lead to a succession of disorders and a
      shorter life expectancy.

      8. The vitality acts as a harmonies and integrator, accepting a symbiotic relationship with organisms that confer
      benefits, domesticating threatening organisms, and destroying lethal organisms. Any disturbance of this hard won
      balance is a threat to life.

      9. The vitality operates on a conservation of energy basis. At any given moment part of its energy will be engaged
      in holding hereditary ills below the surface and out of conscious appreciation. The spare energy is free for Joie de
      vivre. If symptoms are suppressed then they soak up the 'free' energy. Where there is no free energy for the
      retention of symptoms below the surface, then they will be driven to the surface to act as a vent. Thus eruptions
      and discharges should always be treated with caution.

      10. The consideration of individual cases should give due weight to the instinctual behavior of the patient. Taking
      into account the million years experience span as against the short experience span the conscious intellect can

      11. A refusal to realize psychological potential creates an internal vacuum. This causes addiction as attempts are
      made to fill psychological gaps with material substances.

      I do not claim any great originality in proposing these laws as they merely codify the thoughts of many great men that have followed the path of homeopathy and its modern originator Samuel Hahnemann since the late 18th century. Obviously each law could be expanded to occupy a separate lecture, but I will briefly indicate the source for each of them. 1. This should need no introduction to homeopaths as it is a restatement of the law first proposed by Constantine Hering, who also gave us the widely used remedy Lachesis.

      2. This is the product of various comments on embryology in the works of Compton Burnett [4] and the more specific elucidation by Vithoulkas [34] in his work the Science of Homoeopathy. Where he points to the endoderm, mesoderm and ectoderm, and following Compton Burnett's contention that cells close to each other in the early stages of the embryo's development, keep an affinity for each other, no matter where they may end up in the final shape of the body, Vithoulkas proposed that 'There exist predictable pathways, with intermediate stations of defense along which symptoms progress as the general health deteriorates'.

      3. A dose study of Mollinson's book Blood Transfusion in Clinical Medicine [23] will convince anyone that the complexity of blood factors represents an infinity of possible combinations. To them combine the blood factors of all donors, so that a single transfer of Factor Eight can contain contributions from 3000 donors must represent a gross assault on the immunological system and demands a return to the more tolerable one donor, one receiver system.

      4. On p. 947 of his book Kent states that 'The frequency of repetition by which one is exposed would not increase the gonorrhoea itself because the susceptibility is satisfied'. [l9] Von Grauvogl states in his Constitutional Medicine [6] 'It depends on the constitution of the individual in question which disease follows from one and the same exposure. From the same source on the same day, one may get a syphilitic ulcer, one a sycotic ulcer and one escape without any infection'. So receptivity has as much to do with disease transmission as simple infection. If we then turn to the work of consultant venereologists Willcox and Willcox, we find in their handbook Venereological Medicine [38] confirmation of the empirical beliefs of eminent early homeopaths. On endemic treponematoses they
      show that there is no morphological or antigenic difference between pinta, yaws, endemic syphilis and venereal syphilis. When yaws is wiped out by antibiotics venereal syphilis becomes rampant. The historical names for endemic syphilis include 'Sibbens' in Scotland, 'Button Scurvy' in Ireland, 'Radesynge' in Norway and 'Bejel' and 'Njovera' in the African deserts. Endemic syphilis is shown to revert to venereal syphilis under conditions of squalor and deprivation in urban conditions. The similarity between T. microdentium and T. pallidum (or syphilis) could possibly lead to the saprophytic and innocuous T. microdentium becoming virulent in response to abysmal social conditions, or where it is under attack by antibiotics and antimicrobials. Then the body would display all the signs known to homeopaths as tertiary syphilis.
      The same thinking may be applied to the many varieties of Neisseria. Willcox and Willcox state that 'The diagnosis of gonorrhoea on clinical grounds is unreliable in males and impossible in females. N. gonorrhea cannot be distinguished from other Neisseria by smear, and positive microscopic findings only allow a presumptive diagnosis'. In connection with the vitality it must be noted that the Cephalosporins are listed for the treatment of uncomplicated gonorrhea. The Cephalosporins are also used as immunosuppressants in cases of organ transplants.

      Thus it seems reasonable to view drugs such as antibiotics and antimicrobials as working by suppressing the natural reaction of the immunological system. Cysts, ulceration and inflammation may be seen as signs of the immunological system coming to terms with the external attack and the internal susceptibility. Given a lack of external intervention and enough time the body makes the adjustments that are required for survival. Supportive treatment is always required, but intervention should be a last desperate resort.
      5. Willcox and Willcox confirm the above by stating that 30% of cases of latent syphilis show apparent spontaneous cure and the disease appears to burn itself out. In a further 30% of cases no signs develop, but serological tests remain positive; the patient dying of causes other than syphilis. Of the remainder, 15% develop ulcerating necrosis and 25% develop cardiovascular or neuro-syphilis. T. pallidum that are avirulent, or of low virulence, have been found in the lymph nodes, aqueous humour and cerebrospinal fluid of patients whose treatment was delayed past the state of initial infection. Patients with late-treated syphilis may be peppered with organisms that are both avirulent and protected in some way from antibiotics, possibly by a much slower rate of multiplication. Humans have an apparent relative immunity against a second infection with syphilis or yaws if treatment is delayed for three months. How far this immunity results from the persistence of avirulent treponemas
      is not clear, but if antibiotics are given in the early infection no such immunity develops and immediate reinfection is possible'. This bears out Kent's statement made nearly 100 years ago.[9] (sec 4. above)

      6. Healing is an art whose best efforts are applied to reducing the internal pressures and stresses that block the
      self repair function. Kent says 'The doctor who prescribes correctly turns the vital state into order. He cures the
      patient and the patient, being in a state of order commences to repair his body and the tissues go through a general
      house cleaning and such things as are not needed are dispensed with'. Compton Burnett [4] and Allen [2] also saw
      clearly that any growth or ulceration was produced by the body to relieve an internal disorder. If the growth was
      removed by surgery the vent was sealed up, but the dynamics or pressure that produced the growth remained and
      was left to find another and possibly more dangerous way to express itself They saw that what the allopaths call a
      spontaneous cure was an event that decreases internal stress and pressure, allowing the body to reabsorb the now
      redundant growth or heal the now redundant ulceration. These men saw the true function of the physician as the
      relief of internal stress which allows the body to self repair.

      7. J. H. Allen was the first to give any attention to the rotational nature of inherited genetic
      disorders, showing that the vitality will, at any given moment, present disorders that fall into one of
      the three genetic classes, first proposed by Hahnemann. Ortega [25] has also pointed to these
      disorders and their blendings, using an ingenious system of colour notation with the primary
      colours red, yellow and blue. - Under normal conditions and without stress the body will display
      on the surface minor and harmless symptoms of all the inherited genetic groupings that are present
      in any individual. Under threat or stress the most prominent symptoms will be those the body sees
      as the most dangerous to its existence and thus throws as far out to the surface as it can, keeping
      the core clear and unharmed. In general these fall into the class whose most active symptom is
      inflammation. At one level deeper is the class whose most active symptom is the ulcer. At the
      deepest level is the most self-effacing class whose symptoms are eczema, psoriasis and mental
      disorders. The rotational nature of the vitality can be seen where inflammation is suppressed and
      driven into the body's interior by antibiotics and anti-inflammatory drugs that have recently been
      developed. The finite nature of the vitality compels it to release its control of other genetic
      disorders that it had integrated and held in suspension. It needs that energy to cope with the stress
      now thrust in upon it. The symptoms that now emerge may be of the ulcerative class, or if the
      stress has penetrated deep enough, it will call out the most self-effacing class and give rise to
      eczema, psoriasis, mental disorder, motor neuron disease and Alzheimer disease.

      8. It has been shown that newborn babies arrive with a relatively sterile gut, and that in the first
      few weeks external flora move in and take up a symbiotic role in a natural evolutionary niche. 36
      The vitality, or immunological system is less complex This adjustment is only limited by the amount
      of energy that is tied up with internal intruders to the benefit of all concerned. Also at this point
      most organisms are 'user-friendly' and will cooperate with the immunological system in defense of
      the body that provides food warmth and shelter. Allen [2] points out that at any given time the
      body will make whatever adjustments are required to ensure its survival. This adjustment is only
      limited by the amount of energy that is tied up with internal stress and genetic ills. It is now
      generally agreed that virulent outbreaks of thrush or Candida albicans are caused by antibiotics
      upsetting the balance achieved by the vitality or the immunological system. It is but a short step
      from this to the Jarisch- Herxheimer reaction where after the first or second dose of any antibiotic
      that is treponemicidal there is a danger of cardiovascular crisis due to toxins released by dead
      Treponema. [38] A word may be appropriate here regarding the 'magic bullet' syndrome affecting
      medicine at the moment. The philosophy of this approach is to push aside the immunological
      system, or vitality, and achieve the elimination of a small unwanted area of inimical symptoms.
      While this limited objective may be achieved it is obvious that the responsive ability of the
      immunological system will be impaired by this usurpation of function.

      9. Allen was one of the first to point to the menstrual function as a gateway for the elimination of
      toxins. He thought of it as a compensation for the comparatively easy external-internal access to
      the abdominal interior in the female as compared to the male. He also saw the diagnostic
      importance of the menstrual function and the clear cause of abdominal problems when the
      menopause arrived. This is a clear cut case of eruptions and discharges acting as vents for the
      relief of deep internal stresses. Kent also puts this point of view in his lectures, where in his lecture
      on Rumex he says 'I would caution you also about the diarrhoea that occurs in most cases of
      tuberculosis. You had better let such conditions alone. If it is exhausting use Rumex to slacken it
      up. But the TB patient is better with a little diarrhoea, it is the same with high sweats, if he does
      not have them he will have something more violent. The allopath stops the night sweats and
      diarrhoea and has to feed the patient morphine because of the consequent sufferings. The more
      you undertake to relieve these outward conditions, these vents, the more harm you will do to the

      10. By definition, the instinct does not arise in, nor is it under the control of, the conscious mind or
      intellect. Yet instinctive behavior often displays activity that has logic, and ethic that does not lack
      intelligence. Where does the instinct then reside. On the intelligence level one is driven towards the
      Jungian concepts of individual and universal unconscious. This does demote the Ego to a
      peripheral role, and points medicine in the same direction as astronomy which abandoned
      geocentricism centuries ago. The sun no longer goes round the earth. Similarly, one hopes, we can
      look forward to the time when the ego will acknowledge its fallibility and finally take up a role as
      mediator at the interface where physical and abstract meet. Just as traits, shapes and hereditary
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      must the instincts have a physical location. Only the genes can carry information for periods like
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      have to be increased and a new stimulant selected'. Which is why the least difficult road out of
      addiction is the use of alternative therapies to supplement the reserves of vitality, while the
      personal psychological development is increased to solve problems that were previously insoluble.
      The initial cravings of Psora are for sugars and sweets, while those of Pseudo-psora are for meat
      and potatoes.


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      • #4
        Oh yes

        for Vitality read "Life Force".


        • #5
          Dynamic/logical thoughts and views--basis of everything.

          Passkey, many thanks for detailed add deep understanding of life force and vitality. Pls also understand it in bit simple and scientific way.

          Originally, there was a "prime force-mother of all forces". It has complexed into few fundamental forces. Different combinations of these fundamental forces have been complexed into elementary particles. Different combinations of these different forces and elementary particles have been complexed into atoms. Different combinations of these atoms along with previous generations of these have been complexed into molecules, cells, bacteria, plants, animals, stones---i.e. all things and beings as on today.

          At prime level, all these are from one prime force but at today’s level all beings and things are complexes of different combinations of all forces and particles.( one doubt-whether structurally, we are combinations of atoms onwards or also of their previous generations?)

          Accordingly, all beings and things should have some common properties of that "one prime force" and other properties as per different combinations of complexes of this "prime force". All these combinations may be so much; we can’t count and understand them individually, completely and absolutely. We have therefore studied those in some groups (alike astrological signs, stars and degrees, ayurveda, homeopathic, constitutions, miasms, different species, different things etc.). Still all things and beings in any group can’t be exactly similar but will present many similar qualities at gross levels.

          Accordingly, we can look that there is a "prime level" of force, fundamental level of forces, prime level of particles, gross level of particles+forces=atoms and than complex levels of atoms.

          There should be a homeostatic level of all these combinations in these complexes--as per nature's balance. Any deviation from this homeostatic level can mean a disorder or disease at basic level. However, everything and being might have evolved and become habitual to some imbalances, so can tolerate up to some levels. We can call these as evolved, adapted, resistant, and habitual, natural to us...etc.etc...but even than, still basic imbalance will be there.

          We can interfere these imbalances via "prime force" or via its complexes and gross states... but via prime force it may be bit difficult, laborious, indescribable but infinite and via the complexes it will be bit easy, describable but finite depending at which gross/complex level we are entering. At today's most gross level it will be easiest, easiest describable but most finite/limited.

          To me, it looks, entering via either most basic level--"prime/elementary force/s level" or at some gross (atomic) or at recent level should be most valid. Goddess/es, God/s, three trinities and Avatar system of Maintaining God, lord Vishnu, god's son..--should be related to these aspects in other language.

          Accordingly, I feel that, any theory/system based on above considerations should be most valid…prime consideration and gross/recent consideration (in-betweens are bit doubtful). Accordingly I feel, conventional system being gross/recent may not be at all invalid in this sense. I consider homeopathic effects as most prime effects which are with us since evolution.

          These are just my thoughts and theory based on logics/inbuilt understandings.

          Best wishes.
          Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
          Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera


          • #6
            Where pro-conventional medicines people gone?

            Can these make us/our cells resistant to these in near future? If can then what?

            "Resistance The sum total of body mechanisms that interpose barriers to the invasion or multiplication of infectious agents, or to damage by their toxic products. Inherent resistance – an ability to resist disease independent of immunity or of specifically developed tissue responses; it commonly resides in anatomic or physiologic characteristics of the host and may be genetic or acquired, permanent or temporary. "

            Can't we/our cells become resistant to unnatural/new contents to us in most CMs alike virus, bacteria etc. become resistent to antibiotics or other drugs ?

            I contributed this topic for Pro-CMs and skeptic people who occasionally vist and contradict here and radicule at their places? I don't know where they are or why avoiding?
            Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
            Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera


            • #7
              I contributed this topic for Pro-CMs and skeptic people who occasionally vist and contradict here and radicule at their places? I don't know where they are or why avoiding?
              Kayveeh, if you want to invite skeptics to discuss along these lines - do it in the Scientific Research and Validity Forum please.
              Many thanks.
              "The significance of a fact is measured by the capacity of the observer."
              Carroll Dunham


              • #8
                Originally posted by LisaAnnan
                Kayveeh, if you want to invite skeptics to discuss along these lines - do it in the Scientific Research and Validity Forum please.
                Many thanks.
                Hello Lisa,

                Thanks. It was right place but because two thoughts came to mind at same time. I want to combine these in one topic but thought these are different. Let us hope if they can discuss accordingly.
                Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
                Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera


                • #9
                  Originally posted by kayveeh
                  Can these make us/our cells resistant to these in near future? If can then what?
                  We'll get resistant to some things, tolerate others better, tolerate others worse. Conventional medicine is based on science - that means that if and when some remedy stops working, another will be developed to take its place, perhaps based on the original, perhaps radically new based on the advances made by such science in the intervening time. AMs will not have changed, and will not cope with anything new, although they don't cope with anything old either, so that doesn't actually matter.

                  Originally posted by kayveeh
                  I contributed this topic for Pro-CMs and skeptic people who occasionally vist and contradict here and radicule at their places? I don't know where they are or why avoiding?
                  Probably because of Passkey's comments, where he listed a zillion different nonsense ideas with no structure or connection, no understanding of what he was talking about and no grip on reality.


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by moopet
                    We'll get resistant to some things, tolerate others better, tolerate others worse.
                    Can you tell some to which one can get resistance, tolerate better or tollerate worst?

                    Conventional medicine is based on science - that means that if and when some remedy stops working, another will be developed to take its place, perhaps based on the original, perhaps radically new based on the advances made by such science in the intervening time. AMs will not have changed, and will not cope with anything new, although they don't cope with anything old either, so that doesn't actually matter.
                    Yes, it depends upon how any type of medicine/remedy can behave? Persistence leads towards absoluteness---more validity wheres non-persistent may mean anything can be the result in future.

                    Probably because of Passkey's comments, where he listed a zillion different nonsense ideas with no structure or connection, no understanding of what he was talking about and no grip on reality.
                    No, he has some dynamic thoughts--but bit deeper.
                    Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
                    Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..Shiv Khera


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kayveeh
                      Can you tell some to which one can get resistance, tolerate better or tollerate worst?
                      No, because I was generalising, based on what has happened in the past. Say we eradicate flu. Then in a thousand years nobody will have any flu antibodies because they're not useful for survival, and we won't have any flu vaccine either. We'll be vulnerable. Say we live in a more and more polluted world, and become tolerant of more smog, because asthmatics are more likely to die before reaching breeding age. That sort of thing.

                      Originally posted by kayveeh
                      Yes, it depends upon how any type of medicine/remedy can behave? Persistence leads towards absoluteness---more validity wheres non-persistent may mean anything can be the result in future.
                      I have no idea what you just said.


                      • #12
                        More on the wonders of "conventional meds"

                        For those that still believe in 'conventional meds and its 'miraculous cures".......

                        just one example;


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by g.tyler
                          For those that still believe in 'conventional meds and its 'miraculous cures".......

                          just one example;

                          Who are you quoting there? And while I'm not going to state my feelings on that case one way or another, I'd like to point out that anyone can find instances of conventional drugs that were distributed against advice or before trials were completed or even in some cases against the evidence. That's the way the world is - it doesn't mean that the science behind conventional medicines is wrong, it just means that some flaw crept in, an accident happened or someone got rich off a scam. That happens in every field where a product is sold. It happens in bottled water, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't buy bottled water *in general*.


                          • #14
                            As of just a few years ago, the scientific community's near blanket recommendation for prevention of heart disease in post-menopausal women was estrogen replacement therapy. Was that science wrong?


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